How few people do you think you need to kill to get to Sueno? | Forums

[Virtual-Chris]

I was having a debate with someone on Reddit about this game, and how it demands you kill hundreds or thousands of gangsters,

In the course of that debate, it occurred to me that the game only demands you kill 10 people (if you dismantle the entire leadership)... Yuri, Polito, Bookhart, Commandante, Plaga, El Wey's rival, El Gato, Boston Reed, La Cabra, and Boquita. of course you need to kill Madre Coca, but that's in self defence and not your orders. The rest are either already dead or you need to capture them alive.

So what's the minimum number of kills to complete the game?

You can get to Sueno by just dismantling two arms of the Cartel, which if you choose Influence and Security, could be as little as 5 people you need to assassinate... Yuri, Polito, Bookhart, Commandante, Plaga. (and I think Commandante is not mandatory).

If we assume grabbing someone and knocking them out, does just that, do you think it's actually possible to finish this game by only killing 5 people? Can you do all the missions to get Security and Influence complete without actually killing anyone in addition to the 5 bosses? I suppose it's theoretically possible, but I expect you would need to kill at least a few dozen SB along the way.

Would make for an interesting challenge I think.

[gunbladelad]

let's not forget that in order to get the leaders to show themselves, you often have to fight your way through various other missions - even right at the start of the game, you have to eliminate just under 10 people in order to rescue Amaru from the Cartel thanks to there being very little chance to take the cartel members out one by one by melee attacks.

[The8u11etMagnet]

You can do this in even less if you play co-op with someone who has completed all missions but I guess you were not going to include that since it is 'almost' cheating

[MikeWeeks]

One aspect to keep in mind is that you start the game with basically no skills. If you change that by grinding for the skills a Tier 1 operator would normally have prior to arriving in-country, it changes completely the tools you have available to go rescue Amaru.

[FCacGRdvWD]

One of my pet peeves, the skill tree would/should have been only for cosmetics since once you are in country, you are it and should be ready to kick *** and take names. Taking el Sueño was a kick in the sack but I am sure that it does happen in real life (still sucked that we couldn't shoot him so many more times though )

[venomgun1]

Depends on what route you take. Influence and security have the fewest. Less than a 100 kills for sure, but you'd need explosive drone for Bookhart.

edit: skills are not necessary, especially for those who unlocked Unidad gunship Bullet resistance is useful, as it's early unlock. Flash bangs come later as level 10 unlock. Useful drone upgrades are available from level 15 and by that point game would be over.

[MikeWeeks]

True, skills are not needed if all you're going to do is go out and simply shoot/kill NPCs with a stolen (or unlocked) Unidad gunship.

[venomgun1]

Went through security today and here are the results:

Itacua (3+)
- Amaru's Rescue, El Polito's Sports Car, Armadillo's Commander (0)
- Rebellion rising (mission replay disabled) - first convoy can be tagged without kills, but defending the mortar is another story ... perhaps it could work by blocking the radio with several tall vehicles and hiding in the trunk while SB attacks
- Culta's Prisoner (1 melee kill)
- La Yuri & El Polito (2 kills)

Flor de Oro (1)
- The Black Site, The Trail of the General, General Baro (0)
- The Mole (1 kill)

Montuyoc (7)
- The Deserter, Full Load (0)
- The Outpost (1 CQC with wrist blades)
- The Instructors (3 CQC with wrist blades)
- Carl Bookhart (3* kills) *might be possible to have the drone spotted and lure Bookhart that way

San Mateo (0)
- The Prison Village (unseen), La Carcel Del Pueblo (unseen), The Journalist (SB APC extraction), The Death Truck (grabbed at road block), El Pozolero (2 enemies put in vehicle, SB APC extraction)

La Plaga (1); El Muro (0)

Still optimizing Influence branch. Only Agua Verde (3) complete so far:
- The Casino (all enemies put in vehicles, shot tables & machines), Carzita (helicopter on the roof, interrogation), The resort (mortar, hiding in the trunk), The Politician (0)
- Carzita's Assistant (1 kill)
- Carzita's VIP List (2 CQC with wrist blades, soldier and lieutenant), full stealth

Pucara will depend on rebels freed during "The Engineer" and maybe a human shield or few. Driver from "El Chido's Car" can be sniped with crossbow and that's all for Malca. Kill count in Espiritu Santo could be heavy because of "Soldiers of Santa Muerte" and their vehicles need to be dealt with first. Worst case, still under 50 kills.

[MikeWeeks]

Nice. Just to be clear - were CQC "knock outs" used, versus a CQC kill with a knife or neck snap?

[venomgun1]

Nice. Just to be clear - were CQC "knock outs" used, versus a CQC kill with a knife or neck snap?

Not knockouts, kill with wrist blades. Thanks Previous post edited.