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    So Loot Is NOT Better in TU10...All The Complaints Were Valid...

    From the SotG:
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    • In TU10 they changed the way how they roll the stats in the different difficulties
    • That resulted that the rolls were more centered instead of more to the minimum.
    • But they also wanted to increase the minimum-values for the different difficulties but that was not possible because of technical limitations"


      This substantiates the information provided by Reddit user u/bitlilin. He showed data to prove the power distribution of loot is actually worse in TU10:
      https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision...especially_in/

      Bottom Line - You are MUCH more likely to receive loot at the minimum roll (for that difficulty level).
      TU 8/9 Loot item's power distribution (LVL 30 / WT5)
      tier difficulty 0-16% 16-32% 32-48% 48-64% 64-72% 72-80% 80-88% 88-96% 96-99.0% 99.0-100%
      1 normal - 22% 4% 1.5% 4.5% 9.5% 16.5% 25% 12% 4.5%
      2 hard - - 5% 2% 6% 12% 21% 32% 15.5% 5.5%
      3 challenge - - - 2% 6% 13% 22% 34% 16.5% 6%
      4 heroic - - - - 6% 13% 23% 35% 17% 6%
      5 legendary - - - - - 14% 24% 37% 18% 6.5%
      TU 8/9 Loot item's power distribution (LVL 40)
      tier difficulty 0-16% 16-32% 32-48% 48-64% 64-72% 72-80% 80-88% 88-96% 96-99.9% 100% (Only lvl40)
      1 normal - 46% 30% 16% 4.3% 2.5% 1.2% 0.4% 0.05% 0.03%
      2 hard - - 54% 30% 8% 4.7% 2.3% 0.8% 0.1% 0.06%
      3 challenge - - - 65% 18% 10% 5% 1.6% 0.2% 0.1%
      4 heroic - - - - 50% 30% 14% 5% 0.6% 0.4%
      5 legendary - - - - - 60% 29% 9.6% 1.2% 0.7%
      TU 10 Loot item's power distribution (LVL 30 WT5 & LVL 40)
      tier difficulty 0-16% 16-32% 32-48% 48-64% 64-72% 72-80% 80-88% 88-96% 96-99% 100% (Only lvl40)
      1 normal - 43% 43% 12% 0.9% 0.3% 0.2% 0.2% 0.1% 0.1%
      2 hard - - 56% 37.5% 4.3% 1.2% 0.5% 0.5% 0.2% 0.2%
      3 challenge / FP cache - - - 74% 18.5% 5% 1.2% 0.7% 0.4% 0.4%
      4 heroic / Clan cache - - - - 64% 30% 4% 1% 0.5% 0.5%
      5 legendary / Season cache - - - - - 78% 18% 2.6% 0.9% 0.9%



      Some funny observations:
      -The complaints made by non-WONY owners are certainly warranted. Their loot is much worse after TU10, because it is now the same quality as WONY owners!
      -If you sift through the dozens of post complaining about loot, they always had a few people claim loot was better...I guess we now have proof of who the White-Knights are...
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    Awesome post! thanks for that update. Did the devs mention a plan do do something about it, or were they their typical brain-dead dimwit selves?
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    In a 2-3 hr play period last night, I got two exoitics and one named weapon with all stats maxed. One of those exotics was a new one -- an exotic holster (dragon nor something) that doesn't seem that useful to me but might be if I actually try it.

    Prior to last night, I can't remember the last time I got anything drop that was worth picking up.

    So from my perspective, it is an improvement.

    The first question I would have with the posted numbers, is where did that data come from? Was someone able to get their hands on internal documents that show these kinds of stats? Probably not.
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    Originally Posted by smallberries1 Go to original post
    Awesome post! thanks for that update. Did the devs mention a plan do do something about it, or were they their typical brain-dead dimwit selves?
    You can see for yourself:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQ1DnLZJ90
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    Yesterday i got the Matador backpack god rolled with one wrong stat which i can recal.
    Then a purple item rainbow god rolled. And a couple other great rolls.

    I highly doubt they improved anything though, just a lucky streak.
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    Yah we kept telling them during the PTS for TU10 that we where not seeing any difference in the loot drops. Matter of fact most, including myself where convinced that they forgot to make any adjustments at all but the normal standard ignore from the devs. all the posts on the PTS forums about loot and nothing from the devs in response

    Still not seeing any sort of difference in loot running heroic and legendary missions, most items are around the 30 to 50 percent mark on stats.
    Even the 2nd raid loot has low stats and all rainbowed.

    I run 4 characters and 8 builds all together... the last item that I found to 'upgrade' anything was back before thanksgiving and im in game everyday and all day on weekends to boot
    Sure use some of the new items and new gear, but its not better then what I was using before thanksgiving.

    Would be nice to hear some feedback from the devs on what their thoughts and plans are for the loot...
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    Did Manning Zoo on challenging for the league and got 2 god rolled weapons, 2 btsu gloves and a decent roll (all red anyway) providence gloves.
    I mean there was a ton of other rainbow crap too but thats far better stuff in one challenging mission than all the CP4s and heroic world I've done since TU10.
    It makes little sense to me whats going on but my gut says its not simply rng
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    Originally Posted by AgentSerro Go to original post
    Yah we kept telling them during the PTS for TU10 that we where not seeing any difference in the loot drops. Matter of fact most, including myself where convinced that they forgot to make any adjustments at all but the normal standard ignore from the devs. all the posts on the PTS forums about loot and nothing from the devs in response

    Still not seeing any sort of difference in loot running heroic and legendary missions, most items are around the 30 to 50 percent mark on stats.
    Even the 2nd raid loot has low stats and all rainbowed.

    I run 4 characters and 8 builds all together... the last item that I found to 'upgrade' anything was back before thanksgiving and im in game everyday and all day on weekends to boot
    Sure use some of the new items and new gear, but its not better then what I was using before thanksgiving.

    Would be nice to hear some feedback from the devs on what their thoughts and plans are for the loot...
    I share almost all of your feelings. I too have 4 alts, and am still finding it VERY hard to get an upgrade.
    I actually took a short video every time I sold stuff to the vendor last week (I sold everything IIRC). If I edited all together, it would be one of the saddest videos ever made
    Agree about the raid loot too. I got one piece that was worthy of not deconstructing on the spot - Foundry gloves that I dropped for a team-mate.
    BTW, I was one of the people complaining during the PTS about loot quality as well.
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    Originally Posted by smallberries1 Go to original post
    Awesome post! thanks for that update. Did the devs mention a plan do do something about it, or were they their typical brain-dead dimwit selves?
    They said what they usually say (if they comment at all) - we will address it in a future update. I can't remember if they said TU10.1 or TU11, but with their Summer break coming up, I'm not holding my breath.
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    Out of 3-5 hour playtime sessions, I'm getting less than 3 individual maxed stats total, not all on the same item, getting them at all. Loot is garbage, massive is atrocious.
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