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  1. #11
    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    The haters don't want it. Ubi and Massive don't want it. Not going to happen. There is just something about having people enjoying the game, they don't want to repeat in TD2. Go figure.
    IT does suck to. Survival in Div 1 was great. It did add a nice new feel to the game. My only real complaint about it was the completely fixed location of all the loot boxes. It resulted in your success almost having more to do with where you spawned, than how 'gud' you were. Get dropped in Stuyvesant, your in for a ride. Get dropped over by Chelsea, I found that was almost a gimme. All the good loot dropped around CHelsea and in that train yard under Hudson.
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    I think they might do something among the line of Survival from what I've read in the Reddit spoiler for the upcoming content.

    For those that haven't seen it make sure to read it before opening this:
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    It was said that at some point the DC SHD branch will be held accountable for killing the president that was just a BT pawn. Faye Lau went with BT after the end of WONY. If I remember it right, I think she also flees the scene & isn't killed by the SHD agent (correct me if I'm wrong). The author of that Reddit post also suspected that the DC SHD branch would've been branded as Rogue so that SHD agents from all of the country would come to DC to hunt the Rogues or kill them whenever they're spotted around the country. Pretty much this seems like a survival type of gameplay in which you're not allowed to kill any SHD agents (because you're not Rogue) & still have to clear your name somehow. At least, this is my take on how thing will play onward.
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    Originally Posted by Merphee Go to original post
    They said that they don't want to bring it back.

    Best you can do is recommend they redefine Hardcore mode into more of a Survival-esq mode, instead of just being the normal game, except with one life.
    They have made statements before and then take creative liberties and did otherwise.
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    I'm glad survival and underground aren't coming back, crap rewards and survival got boring real quick once you got a farming route down.
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    Originally Posted by IgotNerfed Go to original post
    This game has been in survival mode for months. It'll slowly get worse and we'll have to switch it to life support.
    Last time I looked, Division 2 is in the top 35 games played on xbox but yeah, it's been in survival mode for months...ok
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    The haters don't want it. Ubi and Massive don't want it. Not going to happen. There is just something about having people enjoying the game, they don't want to repeat in TD2. Go figure.
    If a person does not want a thing, that makes them a hater? I could reductio ad absurdum the crap out of this but I hope you see my point.

    UBI and Massive have access to data you do not. Do you think some of their design choices may be based upon that, rather than hating?
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    Originally Posted by TheJDGuy Go to original post
    Was the most boring part of the game & I'm glad they listened and didn't add it to Div 2.
    Played it once solo and once co-op and both times I thought, "wow .. we just wasted almost 2 hours getting crap rewards which I could have got in 30 mins on a Boss run".

    I had almost 3K hours in Div 1 and loved every other part of the game, but NOT the time wasting survival.
    This is the sad thing really about the current state of the Division - players seem to play the game not for enjoyment, which should be its main function, but simply to get the best gear as soon as possible.

    This is why it doesnt retain any kind of long term player base other than the hardcore.

    As a long time fan of the franchise it is painful to watch where it has ended up.

    As much as people slate COD, its got tons of variety, every time you log in its different, warzone is great and you never feel like its a grind, it is simply enjoyable to play.
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    Originally Posted by JazzBlueChally Go to original post
    I'm glad survival and underground aren't coming back, crap rewards and survival got boring real quick once you got a farming route down.
    Good example of my previous post.

    Crap rewards and farming routes...

    What about the enjoyment of playing it?
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    Originally Posted by Adam_Sanderson Go to original post
    If a person does not want a thing, that makes them a hater? I could reductio ad absurdum the crap out of this but I hope you see my point.

    UBI and Massive have access to data you do not. Do you think some of their design choices may be based upon that, rather than hating?
    I would call them haters not for them not liking, but their toxic responses when topics was brought up. Being only 14 posts in, you might not have the history of these forums to look back on. You probably also didn't know, it's been said by Ubi, it wasn't about the success or failure of any content, rather adding new things and keeping content fresh. Yet the difference between TD and TD2, are that content from TD and players want to re-play content. TD2, not so much and Ubi has those numbers. Many players enjoyed things like the UG and Survival. It's funny some players don't want the TD to stick to the things that made TD series great and different. They want it more like Destiny or Diablo or some other game that isn't TD.

    So even though Ubi and Massive has all this info, they still make mistakes..
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    Originally Posted by mattrickl06 Go to original post
    Good example of my previous post.

    Crap rewards and farming routes...

    What about the enjoyment of playing it?
    For players like myself, it was enjoyable. Yet the haters refuse to believe that it was enjoyed, just because they didn't like it.
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