I'm not trying to fool you, but my point is that the DZ is not made for pure PvE.Originally Posted by N3mB0t Go to original post
If they would just turn off the players killing each other part, wouldn't the darkzone then become the sole place to gear and level?
Would there be a single reason to ever spend time in the rest of the game if you completed the story? I guess you know the answer, so that would mean that it's indeed a little more complicated than just turning the PvP switch off. And if you have to make severe adjustments to the zone to make it work, it might be easier to just create an entirely new zone, that is designed and created for its purpose. I think that's even more desirable than to just rehash something that's already made.
Also as a side note, could you maybe leave the rape comments out of your posts? You don't get raped in this game, and in my opinion it's quite a heavy term to use to describing shooting in a shooter.
Who are you to tell what i have to play?Originally Posted by N3mB0t Go to original post
People nowadays...
The loot locked behind it is bad , sure , but that is not what made me post this , i can live very well without that loot , its instead the feeling all that space and work put into it hardly being enjoyed by anyone as the PVP player base is soooo low compared to the PVE crowd.Originally Posted by CoOp_Gordon Go to original post
what you see a lot in YT is conflict , that is a diferent ballgame as it is made for PVP only , and that would keep being seen , it wouldnt cross my mind to wish for a change on those maps to catter to the PVE player , but the DZ is already done in that way with the landmarks and such so it would be just an option , people could still rape anyone that still wanted to go in there as a PVP mode and post it all on YT to keep "advertising" the game.
i dunno why everyone gets so upset about this sugestion as the only diference for them is that they would have to bully each other and not everyone that enters the zone, maybe in the back of their mind they know its wrong and therefore even in this days there arent that many victims to have fun with and this implemented would kill their sadistic fun of wolfes killing harmelss sheeps.
maybe go kill wolfes too then ? in a real pvp game where the enemie isnt so defenseless?
i was sugesting , not telling , keep your pants on, no sheep to rape here.Originally Posted by TOKYO_ROGUE Go to original post
If you find yourself in the DZ and feel defenseless then all you gotta do is look in a mirror to see where ALL the fault lies.Originally Posted by N3mB0t Go to original post
The moment people remove the 'victim' mentality from their thought process is the moment they begin the journey towards understanding and enjoying the DZ. Until then, the LZ (thanks to Merphee's epic D1 thread) more than sufficiently caters to everyone striving for an exclusive PvE experience. Don't cry for more at this stage - that's just greedy.
So other than some balancing issues, what PvP content resources are you referring to? Other than 1 conflict map, there's been none.Originally Posted by N3mB0t Go to original post
Tell me what a PvE DZ would offer that the whole of NYC and 85% of DC doesn't, other than destroying the core concept of the game that was advertised as such from the very beginning.
Tell me how extractions are going to be a heart pounding experience. Tell me how rogues are going to fit in. Tell me about the DIVIDE in the division.
Exclusive gear is another discussion. It's applied throughout the game.Originally Posted by CoOp_Gordon Go to original post
I'm certainly not picking up any exotics playing conflict anytime soon.
First of all let me explain and apologize for the use of that word , im not here to make your life hard as a moderator , i apreciate your input on this thread , every opinion counts.Originally Posted by SevenNVD Go to original post
the use of the word was because when i think about that gang of 4 holding shields on one hand and a skill on the other hand waiting for you at some DZ entrance ready to burn , bleed , shock you and then shoot you in the face to after emote on your dead body rape was a suited word in my mind , i will refer to it as abuse in the future.
Now the DZ, from the time i spent there my conviction is that the loot you get is no better than the one you get on the challenging or upper LZ ,the damage scaling, extraction mechanic and carachteristic DZ things should also remain the same as that is what it would make the DZ diferent and appealing to the PVE players so i dont see what massive tweaks would have to be done to suit PVE play ,this said the reasons to play the LZ would be the same we have today in my POV , no more , no less.
the DZ could still work like it is today , you want DZ levels and locked content ? you gotta go PVP and subject yourself to those 4 gangs , you just want a relaxed co op play with your friends with some diferent settings from the regular LZ , you go PVE , absolutely no changes needed in my view apart from giving players an option and i dont know ... please a looot more people with little to no work?
Let me tell you a small experience that got engraved in my mind from the small time i spent on the DZ.
i wandered around the map , that was close to empty of other players , clearing landmarks and seeing sights , and eventualy i got some mehh gear and went to extract it just for the sake of it, after the chopper arrived i started fighting some mobs , bots , that usualy spawn during extractions , that particular fight was engaging and fun as it had some elites doing some right moves and i almost didnt had time to extract the gear before i killed them all , i attached my bag in the last 2 seconds of the chopper leaving.
After the chopper left i thought to myself, "hey, this was great, this was good fun" .
Now imagine that instead of the DZ beeing a place where all kind of bad human behaviours happen, because people behind monitors tend to be their worst unfortunately, was a place where CO OP and helping each other was the key to suceed instead ?
that would be my view to a positive DZ oposed to the negative one the devs keep pushing out , just make the extraction a must do in the given time or you loose the loot, and spawn legendary heavies and /or all kind of enemies like bot rogue agents to stop you from getting to the chopper , make it as hard as a legendary so one solo is unlikely to suceed , force people to group up and work together , that yes would be content , positive content , make people help each other , not kill each other.
for that we have conflict where there are two clear teams that have to fight each other , keeping on trying to do this travesti of battleDZroyale on this game just doesnt fit , the focus should be on co op , not the other way around.
on a side note but related, to this day im still amazed that although CO OP is fairly marketed as a feature in this game when you do something with someone else a fair amount completion of objectives isnt shared ,it makes no sense to me , just feels like an artificial way to have more people spending more hours in game , feels weird.
if anyone is beeing greedy here is you , holding on to your precious content not even wanting it to be an OPTION for others.Originally Posted by Goo-Goo-Man Go to original post
but i know your fear is another , you would have no one to abuse anymore , because 95% of the game population doesnt already set foot in there , this implemented and that number should be what? 99%? you and your friends would have to kill each other and then emote on your own dead bodies.
hey, but dont worry , none of this is ever going to happen , all i said in the OP is whishful thinking , now please go abuse the 4% player base that still go by your territory and leave this thread alone so people can exchange some more wishful ideas , dont worry, MASSIVE is NOT going to LISTEN.
maybe if you read my reply to SevenNVD you can find some answers to your questions , as for the story line implications give me a break , you are really resorting to that? we have events that have nothing to do with the story line , how does that fit? there is your answer.Originally Posted by D-Y-N-4-M-O Go to original post
The DZ IS an option for everyone.Originally Posted by N3mB0t Go to original post
They choose not to partake in it and that's fine.
Nobody is EXCLUDED from walking through the doors.
As I said, quit playing the victim.
LolOriginally Posted by N3mB0t Go to original post
The DZ does not work like that, it really does not.