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[Knight_Raime]

Now a days, it definitely feels like whites are being oppressed. I can hardly count how many times I've been told that because I'm white I can't have an opinion on any of these matters.
Give me some examples of "treated equally" for me? I'm having a hard time understanding what people mean by that. Do I as a white guy have rights that a black guy doesn't have? Because that's nonsense if people think that.

Does racism exist? Yes, is it just whites being racist against blacks? Not in the least bit. So many racist black people out there.

I might be classified as white, but my heritage is Irish. The Irish were incredibly oppressed when they first settled to America. Should I be owed something for my ancestors being oppressed?

Black people are treated the same as white people who are treated the same as any other race here. They can get jobs, houses, families you name it. Are there some racists out there? Yes, every race has racists.

One of the problems people run into with cops is they are idiots and try to fight the battle right there. If the cop is falsely arresting you, you don't fight the cop on the street, that's how you get dumped on your head no matter what race you are. You fight the battle in court. That's what so many people don't do and it ends up escalated. They fight on the street and resist however because they are usually guilty.

Should these officers be charged and arrested? Absolutely, putting your knee into a guys neck is not police protocol, but let's not pretend George was an angel either he had a history of violence.

Media can teach people about problems and world events, that much is true. For Honor can not do that. Delaying the reveal for the 10 people that still watch it and support this game is doing nothing but making the fans of the game mad. It also suggests that they still were not prepared for the reveal.

That's not really oppression. Though I can understand why you might believe as such. There are 100% people out there that will disregard your opinion using whatever they wish simply to not have to deal with another argument/perspective. The same people telling you your opinion is invalid because you're a white male are probably the same kind of people that would disown bisexuals/transgenders from the LGBTQ movement. The important thing here to recognize is these specific people are not representitive of the movements as a whole. And because of that it's not oppression. They're just being jerks.

Given rights to an individual is apart of being treated equally. But it is not the only aspect of equality. Much of it has to deal with perception from a societal view. It specifically has to be societal based because this means two things. First some of it or all of it is believed to some degree by most individuals. And the second part has to do with power. This in part is why we have limits based on age, what is/isn't okay between individuals working somewhere where money/livelyhood is involved, etc. In this case white males have the most power from a societal standpoint.

We can see this in situations regarding law. You generally see a white male (especially one that is well off) being treated more "gently" (not wanting to ruin their school career as an example,) then say any given minority from a well known poor part of town. In order for true equality to exist you'd need the person in question to be treated the same regardless of sex, race, preferred gender, social status, wealth, etc. In regards to black people while many don't actively think about it the average individual still feels more uncomfortable walking at night and seeing a black person near by versus seeing a white guy near by.

The issue with your statements is your perspective. You seemingly are aware about racism and how it's an issue. But you make efforts to downplay it. The fact that you're trying to muddy the Floyd's death with his past is a clear and cut example of this. It doesn't matter what Floyd has done in the past. His death was uncalled for. And the person who killed him should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Cops are supposed to protect people. Another such example is a previous statement where you're essentially assigning blame to the victims that happen to experience harsh realities. But this kind of trails off into a bigger subject. So I won't go further for brevity sake.

I don't enjoy pointing fingers. But part of your mindset and why it is the way it is is because you have privilege. I am also subject to this. I am after all a white male. So I have not experienced what these people go through. And even though I know people personally who have it's not the same as experiencing it first hand. The best I and you can do is acknowledge their suffering. Not pass any kind of judgement or fault on their part. And simply support the cause in some way. Or simply just remain out of it and not give our opinion on the situation. These people need support and help. Not judgment. Not invalidation. Not blame.

I agree. Delaying content/being silent does very little in the way of actually supporting the cause. This is why in my initial reply to the thread I stated that if they truly cared and didn't want to seem like a coorperation banking the bare minimum because they have to for image sake they should be doing something that actually can help the situation. or at the least make their official and public statement sound more personal and human. Rather than a borderline copy and paste email that's trying to relate but really is just saving face for future interactions and public relations.

However. I understand why they chose to take this action. And while I don't agree with it entirely i'm also not personally bothered by it like others are.

[LightUpTheEyes]

That's not really oppression. Though I can understand why you might believe as such. There are 100% people out there that will disregard your opinion using whatever they wish simply to not have to deal with another argument/perspective. The same people telling you your opinion is invalid because you're a white male are probably the same kind of people that would disown bisexuals/transgenders from the LGBTQ movement. The important thing here to recognize is these specific people are not representitive of the movements as a whole. And because of that it's not oppression. They're just being jerks.

Given rights to an individual is apart of being treated equally. But it is not the only aspect of equality. Much of it has to deal with perception from a societal view. It specifically has to be societal based because this means two things. First some of it or all of it is believed to some degree by most individuals. And the second part has to do with power. This in part is why we have limits based on age, what is/isn't okay between individuals working somewhere where money/livelyhood is involved, etc. In this case white males have the most power from a societal standpoint.

We can see this in situations regarding law. You generally see a white male (especially one that is well off) being treated more "gently" (not wanting to ruin their school career as an example,) then say any given minority from a well known poor part of town. In order for true equality to exist you'd need the person in question to be treated the same regardless of sex, race, preferred gender, social status, wealth, etc. In regards to black people while many don't actively think about it the average individual still feels more uncomfortable walking at night and seeing a black person near by versus seeing a white guy near by.

The issue with your statements is your perspective. You seemingly are aware about racism and how it's an issue. But you make efforts to downplay it. The fact that you're trying to muddy the Floyd's death with his past is a clear and cut example of this. It doesn't matter what Floyd has done in the past. His death was uncalled for. And the person who killed him should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Cops are supposed to protect people. Another such example is a previous statement where you're essentially assigning blame to the victims that happen to experience harsh realities. But this kind of trails off into a bigger subject. So I won't go further for brevity sake.

I don't enjoy pointing fingers. But part of your mindset and why it is the way it is is because you have privilege. I am also subject to this. I am after all a white male. So I have not experienced what these people go through. And even though I know people personally who have it's not the same as experiencing it first hand. The best I and you can do is acknowledge their suffering. Not pass any kind of judgement or fault on their part. And simply support the cause in some way. Or simply just remain out of it and not give our opinion on the situation. These people need support and help. Not judgment. Not invalidation. Not blame.

I agree. Delaying content/being silent does very little in the way of actually supporting the cause. This is why in my initial reply to the thread I stated that if they truly cared and didn't want to seem like a coorperation banking the bare minimum because they have to for image sake they should be doing something that actually can help the situation. or at the least make their official and public statement sound more personal and human. Rather than a borderline copy and paste email that's trying to relate but really is just saving face for future interactions and public relations.

However. I understand why they chose to take this action. And while I don't agree with it entirely i'm also not personally bothered by it like others are.

It's not quite oppression, but it is racism. Imagine if I said some guy couldn't have an opinion because he was black. There would be outrage. I see what you're saying. However privilege is not race specific, I know plenty of colored people that are privileged I know plenty of white people who are not. To think privilege is designated to a specific race is sort of racist in itself. I have had some privilege in my life, but I have also struggled like most people struggle.

[Velentix]

Seeing some assertions made about systemic racism. I feel the need to point out this is not true. If you would like to prove it true you need to point me to an actual law that that singles out a race specifically in order to deny them their freedoms. That would be systemic racism because it is codified into said system. For example the Jim Crow laws, or slavery before that, those are examples of systemic racism. Are there racists within the system that abuse said system to be racist? Most certainly, but that does not systemic racism make. The closest I could accept to systemic racism currently would be the war on drugs, and that's despite it not specifically singling out race.

Does America have problems with police brutality? Hell yes. But according to the statistics which you can look up on the FBI database, its not a racial problem. It is simpler than that. The group that has a monopoly on force in civil disputes (police) act as though they are above the law. Point in fact you just need to look at all the gunshot wounds peacefull protesters have incurred. A large amount of those are to the head, which rubber bullet or not, have a large chance of killing someone. Personally I consider that sufficient evidence to prove intent to try for attempted murder. I doubt it'll happen tho.

[WolfenTank]

Lol you guys sounds like the guy on my street who does meth and rants about the Illuminati and how Hillary Clinton is really a lizard person who rapes and eats babies to stay immortal. XD
So glad your kind will be dead soon.

Just because of this post on its own highlights the fact that you are a person who only believes his own mindset and doesn't bother to look at things in a rational way. When you can't win an argument you just begin to shout louder... yeeeep, that kind of person.
So I'm not gonna put anymore energy towards you outside of this reply

Also kid, here is some advice: if you want to be taken serious as an adult, don't post childish stuff as "so glad your kind will be dead soon" in a discussion. Leave that stuff for kindergarten

Kind regards

[CRIMS0NM0NKEY]

Seeing some assertions made about systemic racism. I feel the need to point out this is not true. If you would like to prove it true you need to point me to an actual law that that singles out a race specifically in order to deny them their freedoms. That would be systemic racism because it is codified into said system. For example the Jim Crow laws, or slavery before that, those are examples of systemic racism. Are there racists within the system that abuse said system to be racist? Most certainly, but that does not systemic racism make. The closest I could accept to systemic racism currently would be the war on drugs, and that's despite it not specifically singling out race.

Does America have problems with police brutality? Hell yes. But according to the statistics which you can look up on the FBI database, its not a racial problem. It is simpler than that. The group that has a monopoly on force in civil disputes (police) act as though they are above the law. Point in fact you just need to look at all the gunshot wounds peacefull protesters have incurred. A large amount of those are to the head, which rubber bullet or not, have a large chance of killing someone. Personally I consider that sufficient evidence to prove intent to try for attempted murder. I doubt it'll happen tho.

The intention or spirit of a racist law would not be located within the letter of the law or it would be overturned by the supreme court...this does not mean the law itself is not racist, merely that the wording itself is subterfuge.

[Alustar.exe]

Common sense out the window, I'm pretty sure those protesters
would've won a court case for a murder. MLK would
be disappointed. As soon as this man died for changing
racial injustice through peaceful protests
morality left the building.

I bet you he nvr intended for his people to start
destroying essential businesses
and stabbing an old lady of all things.

They had so many options to choose from instead
the ONLY thing they could think was violence and
destroying the foundation of society.

I don't care if it was in another state mostly everyone is accountable
for the stupidity in thinking this is a one option standpoint like
they honestly had no other option at all.(?)

America has so many options to choose from but people tend to like
going back to neanderthal like violance me go boom boom with big club
But instead of a club it's a glock 17 or mini uzi.

Your lucky american society hasn't gone into martial law
yet because imagine how many people no matter
the race would die because of that decision.

Blacks in America have endured far more than this and took it silently for hundreds of years. If you think this isn't justified, you have not cracked a history book. Ever.

[Ubi-P4in]

There appears to be a lot of misinformation being spread, so i'll link below to our statement. Due to the nature of this thread and the responses within it, I am closing it.

Our statement here: https://twitter.com/ForHonorGame/sta...26121876848645

Stay Safe.