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  1. #11
    I care I just don't think it should delay stuff I mean we see it everywhere as it is.
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    Originally Posted by garr1999 Go to original post
    I care I just don't think it should delay stuff I mean we see it everywhere as it is.
    People in the entertainment industry tend to forget that they're here to distract us from real life, not make us focus on it.
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    Since I don't really plan to invest any more time and energy into this game, I will express my opinion.

    First of all, the president is an idiot, and the USA has problems with racism. Armed forces also suck up many violent people who want to feel themselves powerful, and they usually target people who they think they can freely abuse.

    That being said, answering violence, racism and fascism with violence, racism and fascism is likely not the best answer. BLM is definetely not the solution, it is part of the problem- it has the same racist, fascist and violent elements as the organizations they supposedely fight (of course, not all members are like this, but it definetely tolerates racism towards white people, and hatred toward all the police force). It is a fascist group masked as a liberal group making a power grab using the favourable wind. Their censorship (basically calling everyone who does not agree with you racist), and on the other side, Trump masking his general incompetence by playing the firm-handed lord crowns this entire stupidity very well, and will definetely follow the traditions of this circle of hatred. One side should aknowledge the problem really exists, the other should accept that they have their fair share in generating it, otherwise, there will be no solution.

    And having this discussion on a depopulating game's website will definetely not help this problem. Now, about Ubisoft in this entire story:

    This postponing is pathetic on multiple levels. The World had multiple big problems since For Honor exists, some far worse than what is in America now, yet I can't recall one time they stepped in to show their support (like to the various minorities suffering in China, just to say a similar one). Well, I won't consider it support- it is quite clear they are not ready with anything they should have been ready with literally years ago, and they make a pathetic excuse out of an entire's society's suffering. It is so cool you can display solidarity with incompetence and laziness. How about doing something in your power that you actually can do, like finally adding a ******g African/Middle-Eastern hero/faction to the game to educate people about their culture a little? Oh, that would take some money and dedication, right? It is not so important afterall to take any risks as a way of support. I won't even go into how much you let down the people still having some faith in you. I lost the last of mine with this disgusting hipocrasy.
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    Originally Posted by Soldier_of_Dawn Go to original post
    Perhaps the devs should do a free 'take the knee' emote for #BLM.
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    Originally Posted by LightUpTheEyes Go to original post
    Racism is definitely a problem all the way across the board that's for sure. However minorities here in America are not oppressed, they used to be, but in fact they (along with white people) are extremely lucky or "privileged" (that seems to be the term that is used most of the time) to be an American citizen. They're at the top of the first world countries. The oppression argument is bs, anyone can be oppressed if that's the mind set you have. I know plenty of successful minorities, one of my bosses is a minority who is extremely successful and he didn't get to where he's at by feeling bad for himself and feeling like the world owes him something. The minorities that are "oppressed" are the ones that did a bunch of drugs instead of studying, or running around gang banging living off the system rather than making something out of themselves. There are caucasians in America that are oppressed too, but they, like the oppressed minorities have oppressed themselves and only have themselves to blame.
    As for Trump, yeah he probably shouldn't be president but who would of been better? Hillary? Yeah not so much.
    People don't need to be beaten in the streets or disallowed to go to specific locations for oppression to still exist. If mistreatment/not treated equally are terms more comfortable for you in this instance then we can use those. The point is they're not treated the same as white people are. And that's a problem. We had a black president. That doesn't mean things are no longer a problem. You telling me your boss is successful and not white doesn't wash away the issues others face.

    Us being American citizens is a good thing yes. That doesn't detract from the issues brought up though. Whites are not oppressed in anyway. Honestly a lot of your response is just ignoring or pointing to something else. General dismissal it feels like. It's fine if these issues don't effect you. Doubly fine if you don't have a personal interest in said issues. But you probably shouldn't be throwing your weight around if you can't even muster an acknowledgement of another's strife without adding a but at the end.


    "People in the entertainment industry tend to forget that they're here to distract us from real life, not make us focus on it."

    Entertainment, media, and art have also been ways to teach society about current problems in the world. They do not serve a singular purpose. You might use it that way. But it's not the only way.
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    Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
    People don't need to be beaten in the streets or disallowed to go to specific locations for oppression to still exist. If mistreatment/not treated equally are terms more comfortable for you in this instance then we can use those. The point is they're not treated the same as white people are. And that's a problem. We had a black president. That doesn't mean things are no longer a problem. You telling me your boss is successful and not white doesn't wash away the issues others face.

    Us being American citizens is a good thing yes. That doesn't detract from the issues brought up though. Whites are not oppressed in anyway. Honestly a lot of your response is just ignoring or pointing to something else. General dismissal it feels like. It's fine if these issues don't effect you. Doubly fine if you don't have a personal interest in said issues. But you probably shouldn't be throwing your weight around if you can't even muster an acknowledgement of another's strife without adding a but at the end.


    "People in the entertainment industry tend to forget that they're here to distract us from real life, not make us focus on it."

    Entertainment, media, and art have also been ways to teach society about current problems in the world. They do not serve a singular purpose. You might use it that way. But it's not the only way.
    Now a days, it definitely feels like whites are being oppressed. I can hardly count how many times I've been told that because I'm white I can't have an opinion on any of these matters.
    Give me some examples of "treated equally" for me? I'm having a hard time understanding what people mean by that. Do I as a white guy have rights that a black guy doesn't have? Because that's nonsense if people think that.

    Does racism exist? Yes, is it just whites being racist against blacks? Not in the least bit. So many racist black people out there.

    I might be classified as white, but my heritage is Irish. The Irish were incredibly oppressed when they first settled to America. Should I be owed something for my ancestors being oppressed?

    Black people are treated the same as white people who are treated the same as any other race here. They can get jobs, houses, families you name it. Are there some racists out there? Yes, every race has racists.

    One of the problems people run into with cops is they are idiots and try to fight the battle right there. If the cop is falsely arresting you, you don't fight the cop on the street, that's how you get dumped on your head no matter what race you are. You fight the battle in court. That's what so many people don't do and it ends up escalated. They fight on the street and resist however because they are usually guilty.

    Should these officers be charged and arrested? Absolutely, putting your knee into a guys neck is not police protocol, but let's not pretend George was an angel either he had a history of violence.

    Media can teach people about problems and world events, that much is true. For Honor can not do that. Delaying the reveal for the 10 people that still watch it and support this game is doing nothing but making the fans of the game mad. It also suggests that they still were not prepared for the reveal.
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    Originally Posted by LightUpTheEyes Go to original post
    Now a days, it definitely feels like whites are being oppressed. I can hardly count how many times I've been told that because I'm white I can't have an opinion on any of these matters.
    Give me some examples of "treated equally" for me? I'm having a hard time understanding what people mean by that. Do I as a white guy have rights that a black guy doesn't have? Because that's nonsense if people think that.

    Does racism exist? Yes, is it just whites being racist against blacks? Not in the least bit. So many racist black people out there.

    I might be classified as white, but my heritage is Irish. The Irish were incredibly oppressed when they first settled to America. Should I be owed something for my ancestors being oppressed?

    Black people are treated the same as white people who are treated the same as any other race here. They can get jobs, houses, families you name it. Are there some racists out there? Yes, every race has racists.

    One of the problems people run into with cops is they are idiots and try to fight the battle right there. If the cop is falsely arresting you, you don't fight the cop on the street, that's how you get dumped on your head no matter what race you are. You fight the battle in court. That's what so many people don't do and it ends up escalated. They fight on the street and resist however because they are usually guilty.

    Should these officers be charged and arrested? Absolutely, putting your knee into a guys neck is not police protocol, but let's not pretend George was an angel either he had a history of violence.

    Media can teach people about problems and world events, that much is true. For Honor can not do that. Delaying the reveal for the 10 people that still watch it and support this game is doing nothing but making the fans of the game mad. It also suggests that they still were not prepared for the reveal.
    Again, fully agree on all your points. Love it when another people speaks rationally about a subject.

    Good job
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    Originally Posted by LightUpTheEyes Go to original post
    Try harder
    Why? I idle at 120. I could cruise at 90 and breeze by you without breaking a sweat.
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    Originally Posted by LightUpTheEyes Go to original post
    Now a days, it definitely feels like whites are being oppressed. I can hardly count how many times I've been told that because I'm white I can't have an opinion on any of these matters.
    Give me some examples of "treated equally" for me? I'm having a hard time understanding what people mean by that. Do I as a white guy have rights that a black guy doesn't have? Because that's nonsense if people think that.

    Does racism exist? Yes, is it just whites being racist against blacks? Not in the least bit. So many racist black people out there.

    I might be classified as white, but my heritage is Irish. The Irish were incredibly oppressed when they first settled to America. Should I be owed something for my ancestors being oppressed?

    Black people are treated the same as white people who are treated the same as any other race here. They can get jobs, houses, families you name it. Are there some racists out there? Yes, every race has racists.

    One of the problems people run into with cops is they are idiots and try to fight the battle right there. If the cop is falsely arresting you, you don't fight the cop on the street, that's how you get dumped on your head no matter what race you are. You fight the battle in court. That's what so many people don't do and it ends up escalated. They fight on the street and resist however because they are usually guilty.

    Should these officers be charged and arrested? Absolutely, putting your knee into a guys neck is not police protocol, but let's not pretend George was an angel either he had a history of violence.

    Media can teach people about problems and world events, that much is true. For Honor can not do that. Delaying the reveal for the 10 people that still watch it and support this game is doing nothing but making the fans of the game mad. It also suggests that they still were not prepared for the reveal.
    How is a redhead different from a Jew? How is a blackman different from a ginger?
    What shade of white are you Irishman?
    My point is there is an invisible line that nobody sees crossed untill its too late.
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    Originally Posted by CRIMS0NM0NKEY Go to original post
    How is a redhead different from a Jew? How is a blackman different from a ginger?
    What shade of white are you Irishman?
    My point is there is an invisible line that nobody sees crossed untill its too late.
    The moment I read him say that you should focus on fighting in court I died. This kid has clearly never actually been arrested or charged with anything in his life ever.
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