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    This can't be the pvp in TU10? Please....

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    If you like shooter PVP, do yourself a favor and go play something else. PVP in The Division is garbage. It's always been garbage. And likely always will be garbage. The devs simply do not understand how to do it.
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    Originally Posted by Sircowdog1 Go to original post
    If you like shooter PVP, do yourself a favor and go play something else. PVP in The Division is garbage. It's always been garbage. And likely always will be garbage. The devs simply do not understand how to do it.
    Well done Sir - truly THE most useless advice to hit these boards this morning.

    Stellar!

    And a person wonders why some aspects of the game remain hot garbage, because, rather than take advantage of the PTS and its attendant forums to effect REAL and tangible change, we are apparently more than happy to rather tell people to leave and play something else..........

    Bravo!

    As to the OP - yeah, that's the Foundry set which will obviously be adjusted come PTS2. That is after all what the PTS is for.........No need to get all jacked up at this stage over a WIP.

    Lol
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    Originally Posted by Goo-Goo-Man Go to original post
    And a person wonders why some aspects of the game remain hot garbage, because, rather than take advantage of the PTS and its attendant forums to effect REAL and tangible change, we are apparently more than happy to rather tell people to leave and play something else..........
    There's no one else to blame for the hot garbage in this game than the devs.
    Only PC players can PTS, so the largest part of the community (PS4/XB) can't even help.
    Devs happily ignored most complaints in these forums for months, but somehow now there's a different sub forum it's all going to be different?
    Devs refuse to invest time to do a sweep over the existing forum to gather the most-complained about issues, but think it's totally ok to ask their paying customers to invest time to report all the same stuff yet again?

    How about no.

    Many of us in here have been burnt a couple of times too many.
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    Originally Posted by Goo-Goo-Man Go to original post
    Well done Sir - truly THE most useless advice to hit these boards this morning.

    Stellar!

    And a person wonders why some aspects of the game remain hot garbage, because, rather than take advantage of the PTS and its attendant forums to effect REAL and tangible change, we are apparently more than happy to rather tell people to leave and play something else..........

    Bravo!

    As to the OP - yeah, that's the Foundry set which will obviously be adjusted come PTS2. That is after all what the PTS is for.........No need to get all jacked up at this stage over a WIP.

    Lol
    What, did you expect me to break down every tiny little detail over the entire history of the game, from Division 1 until now? I gave the short version: PVP in the division is bad.

    It's unbalanced. It's buggy. The entire concept is tacked on as an afterthought because it checked a box of industry standards instead of being a well-thought, well-designed and considered game that has a devoted team of experienced PVP devs working on it.

    The simple truth of the matter is that there are an entire array of shooter PVP games out there that are better. Some of which are F2P. Call of Duty Warfare, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Overwatch, CS:GO, Rainbow Six Siege, Valorant, and even Destiny 2 all do PVP better than the Division.

    Don't waste your time. Don't waste your money. If you want good shooter PVP, then don't come to the Division for it. And quite honestly, the devs are wasting valuable time and resources on it that could be better spent elsewhere. The devs have a history of failing at it. At this point, two games in and several years of failing to improve the situation, do you REALLY think it's magically going to get better now?
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    yeah.. it's good if things are "broken" now.. since it's PTS. Let the testers find the issues..

    One thing i have disdain for is the language so easily thrown in on these videos..
    busted..broken..blah blah.. i thought testers would be a bit more objective and constructive with their feedback..
    For pvp.. i can see why someone would take issue with it..

    but PvE it's not as big a deal.. i just watched some vids on sniper builds.. now those are OP... duno how they are in PVP.. but in a sense i don't care either since I don't PvP...
    every patch there's a "cheese" build in pvp.. is there ever not one?.. every update pvp has a problem with something... it's like nvr ending...and tiresome to hear about.. i don't think pvp will ever be balanced enough to satisfy like over 70% of the pvp popN.
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    Originally Posted by zigMAGNA Go to original post
    i don't think pvp will ever be balanced enough to satisfy like over 70% of the pvp popN.
    So, it's "broken" then? :P
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    Originally Posted by Sircowdog1 Go to original post
    What, did you expect me to break down every tiny little detail over the entire history of the game, from Division 1 until now? I gave the short version: PVP in the division is bad.
    No.

    I expect people to take the initiative and effect real change for the better by taking advantage of the PTS. It helped in TD1 and it will in TD2.

    But hey, there are two types of people: Those who do nothing and others who actually do something and effect real change for the better.

    My thanks go to those who fall in the latter category.
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    Originally Posted by Sircowdog1 Go to original post
    If you like shooter PVP, do yourself a favor and go play something else. PVP in The Division is garbage. It's always been garbage. And likely always will be garbage. The devs simply do not understand how to do it.
    Same applies to you & PvE.
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    Originally Posted by Sircowdog1 Go to original post
    If you like shooter PVP, do yourself a favor and go play something else. PVP in The Division is garbage. It's always been garbage. And likely always will be garbage. The devs simply do not understand how to do it.
    Complete agree with that. The Division has PvP for Dummies. Occasionally you will find someone were fights are Player versus Player. Most of the time people only rely on their skills and/or talents and it becomes Player versus Computer, triggered by other players. Not to mention that it will never be balanced (simply impossible) and creating a level playing field for everyone involved.
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