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[MrBdur]

I can only explain so many times that the difference between PC and Console is so minor that it doesn't enough affect higher level players or people with good reaction times. Knight Raime already gave you his personal experience of switching from console and I have to agree completely with the fact the coming over to PC does not make you a better player, this is objectively the truth and you cannot argue around it. The balance that is employed to make PC hard does not break the game on the console. There are no characters that are better or worse on either platform.

Highlander on PC still requires you to make a read on his kick grab, his attack after a neutral light, OS lights, etc.They are all very hard things to just outright react to.



This is the equivalent of me saying '2+2=4' and you would respond with "i can't tell but is this you finally excepting I am right about 2+2=7?". If you only play on console with the mindset that PC is better and console players have it bad, you are obviously going to really start believing that. But, belief does not make something true. Someone who has experienced both is able to objectively compare and come to a conclusion. You don't have a PC obviously or else you would play that instead of console and you would not be here today crying about your imaginary platform specific balance problems. So with this in mind, me and other people who have switched say that what you're talking about isn't true along with proof from some youtubers and pro league. But you, who has only played console with maybe 1 or 2 matches on a friends PC, say that we are wrong and you somehow know this without the tools to even test it yourself and with no supporting evidence.

Also I can't make you look bad when all of our responses are here in the open. If you being like "1v1 me bro" in the middle of an argument about game balance to a dude who is publicly known to play only breach looks toxic, that is entirely your fault. I'm not sure what you expected.


TL;DR

- Xbox is at a input lag disadvantage of 60-80ms
- This does not affect the balance of heroes
- PC doesn't make you better
- Sounds like you need to revisit the training arena and practice against Highlander more
- I am not interested in having a conversation with someone with this level of ignorance on such a clear cut topic and has an attitude of "lets prove our game knowledge in the arena"

And if all you play is breach, your opinions on balance aren't worth much. I play duels, brawls, dom, and breach. Most balance problems are most apparent in duels, so if you don't play duels, you might not even notice them.

[MrBdur]

It has been explained countless times than the difference between console and pc is mostly because you use TV and wireless controler than the game running at 30 fps. So nop, if you use a monitor, wired connection, wired controller, you will get a near pc experience.

This simply isnt true. Do you even know how many players have mentioned how trash console for honor is in comparison to pc for honor? I'll take the multitudes of reports over 2 opinions any day.

Console For Honor is capped at 30fps unless you have the Xbox One X or PS4 Pro, which both go to 60fps. Screen doesnt matter. Thats an automatic handicap compared to PC.

It might not change much at lower levels of play (which is why I keep assuming you guys must be noobs as you claim there is no difference) but it MOST CERTAINLY changes things at higher levels.

[Qoissant]

Dude, I asked for a friendly duel, not to just beat you and go "ha ha you suck". I wanted to see your level of play first hand so i could confirm or deny what you're saying but you refuse which leads me to believe you aren't very good. My opinion is simply that at higher levels of play, there are some serious issues. I believe part of the reason is PC vs Console. If I'm wrong, then just give me a duel and show me. Like dang dude.

If you arent playing at my level, then your opinion is null and void since noob players can't even pull off the maneuvers that cause issues. I want to see if you're better than me, cuz if you are, I'd be more inclined to believe your opinion. However, if I clapped you 3-0 with little effort, I would know that you have no clue what you're talking about lol.

We are having a discussion about technical matter of the game, gameplay skill is irrelevant. Bringing up 1v1's and trying to judge peoples game knowledge based on performance is pretty toxic. Trying to off people as noobs who disagree with you is also toxic. There are no two ways to spin that. All i can say for my skill is that I am above average so just stop worrying about it and focus on using your words instead

[Qoissant]

And if all you play is breach, your opinions on balance aren't worth much. I play duels, brawls, dom, and breach. Most balance problems are most apparent in duels, so if you don't play duels, you might not even notice them.

I disagree completely. I still have plenty of 1v1s inside of breach and dominion is a 4v4 gamemode with feats so hero balance is basically identical outside minion clearing. You are just doing whatvere you can to dismiss my argument now because you can't dispute it

[Qoissant]

This simply isnt true. Do you even know how many players have mentioned how trash console for honor is in comparison to pc for honor? I'll take the multitudes of reports over 2 opinions any day.

Console For Honor is capped at 30fps unless you have the Xbox One X or PS4 Pro, which both go to 60fps. Screen doesnt matter. Thats an automatic handicap compared to PC.

It might not change much at lower levels of play (which is why I keep assuming you guys must be noobs as you claim there is no difference) but it MOST CERTAINLY changes things at higher levels.

Now you are just mass dismissing people who disagree with you by calling them noobs as if their opinions don't matter either way. The only thing you say on these forums now is:

- Feel bad for me for being on console
- I have console specific balance problems
- Can we 1v1? I need to know that you are as good as me so I can accept your argument
- My 1v1 intentions are friendly even though I would think less of you and ignore your opinions if you lose.

I don't want to talk to you at this point anymore because you clearly don't want to have an actual discussion or acknowledge anyone's points so don't expect me to respond to your next invalidating post

[Lunamaria2020]

This simply isnt true. Do you even know how many players have mentioned how trash console for honor is in comparison to pc for honor? I'll take the multitudes of reports over 2 opinions any day.

Console For Honor is capped at 30fps unless you have the Xbox One X or PS4 Pro, which both go to 60fps. Screen doesnt matter. Thats an automatic handicap compared to PC.

It might not change much at lower levels of play (which is why I keep assuming you guys must be noobs as you claim there is no difference) but it MOST CERTAINLY changes things at higher levels.

Looks like you have no clue about what you are talking. The difference between 30 fps and 60 fps is 33 ms if I remember correctly. Everything else is coming from your WiFi, your wireless controller and your TV a.k.a input lag.

And most console players are couch players anyway. While most top players will play with a monitor setup. As soon as you got that with everything wired, you are nearly playing on PC.

[Qoissant]

Looks like you have no clue about what you are talking. The difference between 30 fps and 60 fps is 33 ms if I remember correctly. Everything else is coming from your WiFi, your wireless controller and your TV a.k.a input lag.

And most console players are couch players anyway. While most top players will play with a monitor setup. As soon as you got that with everything wired, you are nearly playing on PC.

I played on my xbox at a computer desk using a 4k minimum delay monitor and my experience was amazing. The only difference is that xbox looks choppy after playing PC but my reactions stayed the same either way. It was a very nice convenience and visual upgrade to go to PC, nothing else really. Your display can play a huge part in your overall delay and a lot of people do not realize this and continue to favour TVs over monitors

[Qoissant]

Console For Honor is capped at 30fps unless you have the Xbox One X or PS4 Pro, which both go to 60fps. Screen doesnt matter. Thats an automatic handicap compared to PC.

I just now noticed this line. You are on a streak of misinformation aren't you? Console is locked at 30FPS period. I upgraded to a 4K monitor and the xbox one x a year ago specifically for this game. There is absolutely no 60FPS option, only a high res option which probably makes your input lag worse honestly. It's kind of weird seeing all these super incorrect statements you have been throwing around. It is kinda making me think that you don't know much about the game after all, I didn't even have to 1v1 you to come to that conclusion, you did it yourself.

[Bigjaydub318]

LB is OP as hell no matter how you put it I agree ..Stuns hyperarmor and super fast light attacks smh .Dude 7ft tall with heavy armor but can probably land a light before a assassin..come on

[MrBdur]

I just now noticed this line. You are on a streak of misinformation aren't you? Console is locked at 30FPS period. I upgraded to a 4K monitor and the xbox one x a year ago specifically for this game. There is absolutely no 60FPS option, only a high res option which probably makes your input lag worse honestly. It's kind of weird seeing all these super incorrect statements you have been throwing around. It is kinda making me think that you don't know much about the game after all, I didn't even have to 1v1 you to come to that conclusion, you did it yourself.

Damn I really have you two riled up. I was not trying to define you as a noob, I was trying to explain why I made that assumption to begin with as it almost seems like you are making excuses not to prove me wrong because perhaps you are concerned that I will prove myself correct.

Anyways, as far as I knew, For Honor was one of the Xbox One X enhanced games, my apologies if I was mistaken. The fact that I'm wrong however only makes my original point more right. Console is locked at 30, and therefor PC at 60 or higher has the advantage, and therefor For Honor is in fact better and more reactable on PC than Console.

In conclusion, again, if you aren't playing at my level (diamond or higher) then your opinion isn't worth much, as these issues only become really apparent at high levels of play, so if you aren't playing at that level, why are you wasting your time arguing with me?

I've said over and over and over "at high levels of play" yet you keep rambling about how I boast about my skill and how I'm calling you a noob. I'm telling you this is a high level issue, to which you say it isn't an issue. I ask you to show me your skill level, so I can guage where you're at, to confirm or deny my personal opinions, which you make excuses to avoid.

It just seems like you're upset over what I've said, and now you're attempting to save some face, or something of the sort. I dunno man.

Anyways, ultimately, the TG changes will most likely address most of my issues with the game so meh. And besides, even with all my complaints about it atm, I still make diamond ranks so I'm good.

PS what's with everyone riding this "misinformation" train? Any time someone is mistaken these days it's "spreading misinformation" and just makes it sound so much worse than it is, which btw I think you did on purpose to attempt to make me look bad.