Shugoki nerf needed | Forums

[Grey_Wolf_Chief]

I've heard a lot of players complain Jormungandr has is easy in 1v1 fights due to his moveset and hamarr slam. When you're exhausted and get punched you fall and then slammed by the hamarr. Jormungandr gets his stamina back as you do too.

Now Shugoki on the other hand he has a bigger advantage and it's too much and it is a problem in 1v1 fights. When he initiates his grab to pick you up and crack your back he gets full stamina regain. However if you're exhausted and you get grabbed by a Sugoki back break you don't get stamina back and can be stuck in a loop. This is unfair for the player fighting against a Shugoki in this situation and it can make duels unbalanced. Has anyone else experienced and feel this needs to be addressed?

[DFQN1]

Just bash him and he's done.

[GoldBrady]

I have to strongly disagree with this post on the Shugoki nerf.


He's weak. He doesn't get 25 HP on Demon's Embrace, but instead gets 20, no roll catch, a headbutt that doesn't guarantee anything and can be dodged, and almost everything he does leads to the enemy getting off a heavy.


Honestly, I'm glad there is no stamina back because it serves people right to roll from fights.

[Patroccc]

If you're playing against an honourable player (something which is becoming increasingly uncommon) they should let you regen your stamina. If you were going to pressure the shugoki while they were out of stam, its your fault.

[Gaser.]

If you're playing against an honourable player (something which is becoming increasingly uncommon) they should let you regen your stamina. If you were going to pressure the shugoki while they were out of stam, its your fault.

Honor is a made up rule tho.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

If you're playing against an honourable player (something which is becoming increasingly uncommon) they should let you regen your stamina. If you were going to pressure the shugoki while they were out of stam, its your fault.

Must be one of the dumbest posts I have ever read.

[Grey_Wolf_Chief]

[QUOTE=GoldBrady;14984483]I have to strongly disagree with this post on the Shugoki nerf. He's weak. He doesn't get 25 HP on Demon's Embrace, but instead gets 20, no roll catch, a headbutt that doesn't guarantee anything and can be dodged, and almost everything he does leads to the enemy getting off a heavy.



I think it's more to do with him having uninterruptible stance on every single attack apart from the head bash sometimes players may feel forced to turtle because you cannot seem to fight back as much as you would want. My Shugoki is rep 11. Sometimes I main him and I can understand the frustration for any player I come across and they cannot damage half of my max health.

[GoldBrady]

[QUOTE=Grey_Wolf_Chief;14998991]

I have to strongly disagree with this post on the Shugoki nerf. He's weak. He doesn't get 25 HP on Demon's Embrace, but instead gets 20, no roll catch, a headbutt that doesn't guarantee anything and can be dodged, and almost everything he does leads to the enemy getting off a heavy.



I think it's more to do with him having uninterruptible stance on every single attack apart from the head bash sometimes players may feel forced to turtle because you cannot seem to fight back as much as you would want. My Shugoki is rep 11. Sometimes I main him and I can understand the frustration for any player I come across and they cannot damage half of my max health.

Then they don't know what they're doing. They can easily avoid attacks by back walking or dodging charged heavies for a GB. Getting a GB on him is easy and anyone can get a heavy off his whiffed Demon's Embrace, even when OOS. My Shugoki is almost rep 50 so I'm saying this from my mistakes.