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    What did you change now again Massive?

    You didnt nerf ****. Flame throwers still hit you from massive distances and grenade throwers can still try out for baseball teams.

    And as if that isnt enough, tonight, a friend asked me to come check something out. And what we found is hyper aggro yellow bar Outcast enemies in the open world. Thought I was imagining things until they just walked up to me surrounded me and mowed me down. No taking cover... They just come walking up.
    Suicide huggers now kill you instantly. Enemies one shot me, which never happened before. And I changed nothing on my build. We play on Heroic only and I have a decent DPS build.

    What changed between Saturday night and now? After we finished the manhunt it feels different. What did you do or change?
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    stop moaning game already too easy on heroic,have not died once since 9.1
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    What does it matter? They aren't going to fix a damn thing. I still run into bugs that were reported over a year ago. Instead they just keep fcking up the game over and over again. At this point, we're just flogging a dead horse. Maybe it's simply time to move on and just leave the game behind for the idiots here who've effectively enabled Massive to ruin it thoroughly.

    Maybe we'll be proven wrong. And maybe hell will freeze over, too.
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    Did the outcast rushers ever NOT one-shot people? It's hard for me to know, really, since I only ever play red or yellow with maybe 1 blue for a shield on some builds. I'd assumed that a higher armor build could survive it, but DPS builds couldn't.
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    Originally Posted by Sgt.Danielle Go to original post
    stop moaning game already too easy on heroic,have not died once since 9.1
    FYI “normal and story” are not heroic.

    People who claim they never die in the division either never played it or don’t own it.
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    Originally Posted by MonsterCheddar Go to original post
    You didnt nerf ****. Flame throwers still hit you from massive distances and grenade throwers can still try out for baseball teams.

    And as if that isnt enough, tonight, a friend asked me to come check something out. And what we found is hyper aggro yellow bar Outcast enemies in the open world. Thought I was imagining things until they just walked up to me surrounded me and mowed me down. No taking cover... They just come walking up.
    Suicide huggers now kill you instantly. Enemies one shot me, which never happened before. And I changed nothing on my build. We play on Heroic only and I have a decent DPS build.

    What changed between Saturday night and now? After we finished the manhunt it feels different. What did you do or change?
    My exact same experience, things changed on Sunday.

    Hyper aggressive NPCs, check.
    Insanely damaging fire from 20 meter away, check.
    Enemy's precision with grenades suddenly revamping, check.
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    Originally Posted by MonsterCheddar Go to original post
    You didnt nerf ****. Flame throwers still hit you from massive distances and grenade throwers can still try out for baseball teams.

    And as if that isnt enough, tonight, a friend asked me to come check something out. And what we found is hyper aggro yellow bar Outcast enemies in the open world. Thought I was imagining things until they just walked up to me surrounded me and mowed me down. No taking cover... They just come walking up.
    Suicide huggers now kill you instantly. Enemies one shot me, which never happened before. And I changed nothing on my build. We play on Heroic only and I have a decent DPS build.

    What changed between Saturday night and now? After we finished the manhunt it feels different. What did you do or change?
    Definitely some wild inconsistency going on. I've experienced both the hyper aggressive behavior with insane damage and the "dumb AF" overly passive behavior. The git gud bandwagon needs to chill on this one. Something is definitely not right and I'm beginning to question if we're all even playing the same game.
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    Originally Posted by desrocchi Go to original post
    My exact same experience, things changed on Sunday.

    Hyper aggressive NPCs, check.
    Insanely damaging fire from 20 meter away, check.
    Enemy's precision with grenades suddenly revamping, check.
    Same experience here. Today I got one-shotted by a Hyena turret. While blindfiring from cover. From full armor/health. I used to be one of those people that said that was impossible, but here we are...While the reviver hive was reviving me three Hyenas navigated around the cover so when I got back up I was insta-killed. Nothing I could do, zero.

    And I'm not your average casual, nor do I have a weak build. So imagine how it feels for someone less well equipped or experienced.

    Solo, Heroic, Open World BTW.

    Originally Posted by ET-Parabola Go to original post
    Definitely some wild inconsistency going on. I've experienced both the hyper aggressive behavior with insane damage and the "dumb AF" overly passive behavior. The git gud bandwagon needs to chill on this one. Something is definitely not right and I'm beginning to question if we're all even playing the same game.
    Yup, it's less obvious in Heroic (because enemies already hit hard and are agressive there), but definitely there. Normally I only have to be careful around Black Tusk, but some times Hyenas hit even harder. And other times they don't.

    Fix your **** Massive.
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    Originally Posted by MonsterCheddar Go to original post
    You didnt nerf ****. Flame throwers still hit you from massive distances and grenade throwers can still try out for baseball teams.

    And as if that isnt enough, tonight, a friend asked me to come check something out. And what we found is hyper aggro yellow bar Outcast enemies in the open world. Thought I was imagining things until they just walked up to me surrounded me and mowed me down. No taking cover... They just come walking up.
    Suicide huggers now kill you instantly. Enemies one shot me, which never happened before. And I changed nothing on my build. We play on Heroic only and I have a decent DPS build.

    What changed between Saturday night and now? After we finished the manhunt it feels different. What did you do or change?
    If you read the patch notes most of the changes were not intended to effect the elites and named elites, so if you play on Heroic or above you wont notice any difference.
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    Originally Posted by SGTR0CK117 Go to original post
    If you read the patch notes most of the changes were not intended to effect the elites and named elites, so if you play on Heroic or above you wont notice any difference.
    Since when do patch notes also include the new bugs they introduced? Or the existing ones they didn't acknowledge (yet)? It's not about how the game is *supposed* to work, it's how it's *actually* working for a lot of people.

    It's an inconsistent mess. I can have sessions with no issues whatsoever or I can have sessions that are completely borked frrom the start. Or anything in between those extremes. It's literally the difference between being able to facetank a CP4 and getting insta-wiped by a random patrol ten minutes after that. (Again: solo, Heroic, open world).
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