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    I'm so sick of the only good solo build for heroics being the M1A all red.

    Yeah yeah, I could equip all red, glass canon and vigilance and run a shield just like everyone else. It's boring as hell, and so badly out of balance.

    The problem here is that no amount of buffing other weapons is going to change the dominance of the M1A without a complete overhaul of how weapons work, along with a redesign of basic mission architecture and layout.

    The M1A puts bullets exactly where you want them to be, at ANY range. It staggers enemies, hits hard enough to cut through the bullet sponge, and doesn't suffer as bad under the failure of hit detection like fast ROF weapons. It saves ammo because it acutally kills things quickly, with fewer rounds.

    And then lets get into the layout of encounters. Other than an extremely few locations, every encounter is made easier by being further away from the enemy. The AI doesn't know what to do at extreme range, can't hit well at extreme range, and even when it does hit it does less damage. Rushers are a literal joke that far away. Enemy drones and RC cars can be seen earlier. There's little to no risk of being one-shot by OP melee. Oh....and enemies can't spawn behind you or flank you because you've pulled back outside the circle that those things happen in.

    Basically Massive has made it extremely dangerous to play anything other than a long-range game. SMGs, shotguns, even ARs and pistols are all just pointless, needlessly risky. Even tank builds with a shield have to constantly worry about being flanked.

    And the worst part?

    This can't be fixed by simply buffing all the other weapons. Because even if they do more damage, they're still risking all the things listed above.
    If they nerf NPC armor or damage, it also makes Rifles and MMRs that much stronger.
    It can't be fixed by making the Armor stat better, because if you spec into blue you can't kill anything.


    Massive has painted themselves into a corner. In order to fix this problem, they'd basically have to overhaul the entire way the AI works, along with completely changing the way encounters are designed, which leads to complete nonsense stacked against the Agents like the final encounter of Darpa Labs......that screws every other build just as much as an all Red M1A.

    MAssive, you f**ked up bad. I feel sorry for you, because there really isn't a way out of the way you've set the game up.
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    I put a max out bulletking beside my M1 in DPS building and it's 1 week that I don't touch the M1..... Bulletking destroy everything....
    Anyway you can solo heroic with a Tek build and dont need a M1 ....
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    Sircowdog1's Avatar Senior Member
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    Originally Posted by KarmaBullets Go to original post
    I put a max out bulletking beside my M1 in DPS building and it's 1 week that I don't touch the M1..... Bulletking destroy everything....
    Anyway you can solo heroic with a Tek build and don't need an M1 at all....

    Video proof please. And remember I'm talking about SOLO.....and please don't link something easy like A&S Museum, or Hotel. Go run Wallstreet or Darpa and get back to me with your build(Which is probably EXACTLY the same as the M1A build, just with bullet king).

    Also, I've done literally hundreds of tombs and wallstreet runs to no avail. I'd LOVE to give the build a try, but I think my account is flagged to not get it or something.
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    Lately I've been running a CC build on heroic. With skill power and skill haste rolled on every piece my artillary turret does 3.4 million a hit with 8.4 second cool down and cluster mines hit for 2.7 million each with 20 second cool down. That's before I Chuck a grenade and get overcharge added from my Acosta bag, and the 25% skill damage bonus from glass cannon
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    tried going with a 2 piece golan,2 piece providence,emperor kneepads and 1piece of fenris. i just wanted alittle armor and some armor regen while i got in cover. i made it through heroic with a group but it was tough. i died alot, didnt have enough firepower,npc's ripped through my 1.2 million armor in no time.my stats were horrible. basically i had no way to fight back. when im in my reds i can blow through the content even all yellow i can get through heroic easy enough. there is no middle ground in this game for builds.
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    M1A needs to be nerfed, it was kinda a coward move to un-nerf it imo, then maybe 25-30% would be enough, but to listen to those who whine the most in forums and reddit isn't the way to move forward.
    Same goes for NPC nerf with 9.1.
    Only positive thing I've to say about 9.1 is that AR's are viable now at higher difficulties.
    But still the outliers have to be nerfed.

    "MAssive, you f**ked up bad. I feel sorry for you, because there really isn't a way out of the way you've set the game up."
    LOL didn't they do exactly what you asked for? Made heroic easy?
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    Hi Sircowdog1, I do understand why you are saying this, but dont agree with you 100%.

    I've done 5 different build witch I can complete heroic solo, but the m1a still by far, the most efficient.

    On GWH Heroic Solo.

    -M1A build - 13min+

    -Seeker/torrent build - 20min+

    -LMG build - 15min+

    -Negotiator's Dilemma/ Assault rifle - 20min+

    -mix build 3 reds/3 blues - 30min+
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    I only use a CC build (when in a team) that's coz i am lazy to pew pew lol.
    Jammer pulse and shock trap.. and somehow... i still got the most kills. I don't get it.
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    Originally Posted by alwaysblazed82 Go to original post
    Lately I've been running a CC build on heroic. With skill power and skill haste rolled on every piece my artillary turret does 3.4 million a hit with 8.4 second cool down and cluster mines hit for 2.7 million each with 20 second cool down. That's before I Chuck a grenade and get overcharge added from my Acosta bag
    You're soloing missions with a skill build? How long did that take? Because if it's more than about 20-25 minutes, then you're only proving my point.
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    Originally Posted by westyren Go to original post
    LOL didn't they do exactly what you asked for? Made heroic easy?
    Quote me where I asked for Heroic to be easy. Go ahead, I'll wait.
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