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    Gone back to Composure

    Started off with Composure a long while ago, Changed too Vigilance about 3mths ago.

    Yesterday i changed back too Composure and it feels so much better solo or in a group.

    I do think Vigilance is a bit overated........but that's just me
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    Originally Posted by Riflemania Go to original post
    Started off with Composure a long while ago, Changed too Vigilance about 3mths ago.

    Yesterday i changed back too Composure and it feels so much better solo or in a group.

    I do think Vigilance is a bit overated........but that's just me
    Ok, should give it a try, but after 9.1 you don't need to be in cover that much if you aren't running legendary.
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    Overwatch + Composure is still a pretty decent combo IMNSHO.
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    I pair composure with Obliterate.

    It makes quite a hardhitting combo obviously with the other stuff on my mostly red build

    My police UMP-45 hits at base 131K add in all the extra's and it can go upto 477K a hit

    My MK 16 base 110K can go upto 450K a hit.

    and its not all red with maxed crits.

    you can also add in Sawyers knee pads for another30% extra weapon damage
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    Originally Posted by Cadillac-Jack Go to original post
    you can also add in Sawyers knee pads for another30% extra weapon damage
    Well, rather 15% extra damage as you lose the 15% WD from a "red" gear item.
    Furthermore you are losing CHC and CHD and the damage bonus that you have to stack up with not moving for 10sec is gone once you just turn left or right in cover.

    It's definately a great option if you want to be less squishy without sacrificing too much damage output.
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    Originally Posted by FeuerSturm2k11 Go to original post
    Well, rather 15% extra damage as you lose the 15% WD from a "red" gear item.
    Furthermore you are losing CHC and CHD and the damage bonus that you have to stack up with not moving for 10sec is gone once you just turn left or right in cover.

    It's definately a great option if you want to be less squishy without sacrificing too much damage output.
    Say you got a Groupo with +15 CHD from the gear type
    +12 CHD as a roll
    +6 CHC as another roll
    and you roll max armor on it

    If your CHC is 60 and CHD is 150, then you will always get just from this piece
    0.06 x 150 + 0.6 x (15 +12) = 9 + 16.2 = 25.2% extra damage all the time

    If your CHC is 60 ajd CHD is 210, then you will get just from this piece
    0.06 x 210 + 0.6 x (15 +12) = 12.6 + 16.2 = 28.8% extra damage all the time

    The 10 second wait for the 30% is pointless unless your a tank or a skill build.
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    Finally once again an interesting thread.
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    I prefer Vigilance when playing in a group, but change to Composure when I play solo. It is almost impossible to maintain the buff of Vigilance when the NPCs focus on me alone. And, as mentioned above, the combination with Overwatch is quite useful. Vigilance is a great talent, but not a must-have.
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    I prefer unstoppable force paired with obliterate. If you can kill NPCs quickly and efficiently enough, you get up to 35% weapon damage from the combination.

    I also like pairing intimidate and bloodsucker for up close and personal builds. 35% weapon damage to enemies within 10m when you have bonus armor.
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    I have been using it for a while now in Legendary missions paired with Focus on the chest.
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