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    The death screen? For what purpose? It shows the cumulative damage you received in the last 10 or 20 seconds, even if it were to show 2m damage from a red people would simply claim that the damage had been dealt over a period of time.

    Asking everybody to keep recording their gaming sessions is also absolutely bonkers because it requires disk space plus it is a strain on the processor.
    Then they'd have to find and edit the part of the recording that shows the problem, and have an adequate internet connection to upload it.

    It's not something that could be asked to the average player.
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    Originally Posted by desrocchi Go to original post
    The death screen? For what purpose? It shows the cumulative damage you received in the last 10 or 20 seconds, even if it were to show 2m damage from a red people would simply claim that the damage had been dealt over a period of time.
    Hence the preference for video. Having said that, if he was one-shotted by a red, the death screen wouldn't show damage from multiple enemies - thus negating that particular argument.

    Asking everybody to keep recording their gaming sessions is also absolutely bonkers because it requires disk space plus it is a strain on the processor.
    My understanding is that both consoles have capture and sharing built in. Enough people stream game footage from their PC's that you'd think such a "common" problem would have been caught on video by now.
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    Originally Posted by desrocchi Go to original post
    Asking everybody to keep recording their gaming sessions is also absolutely bonkers because it requires disk space plus it is a strain on the processor.
    Bonkers or not, that's how one is expected to report issues in a video game. You may not like it, but devs require evidence and actual video footage to be able to tell what exactly is -really- happening. Also let's be real here -- most people nowadays run 6 Core CPU's. A recording program will barely put any strain on a modern day CPU (if at all. I can run up to 3 games simultaneously on mine), not to mention that if you run Nvidia you have Shadowplay that doesn't affect your gameplay at all and you can put a recording together for literally 10 minutes.
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    Originally Posted by dagrommit Go to original post
    You're right. I want to see stuff fixed, hence encourage people to provide evidence so those bugs get prioritized. Other people just want to whine
    As a person who makes a living at fixing broken things. Sometimes you have to take what is given and do the leg work and fix it. I don't expect the customers to send me back a broken product and say, "By the way, I broke it down and investigated the problem and discovered this is where the issue, then put it back together, and then sent it back so you can fix it."

    As I stated, this isn't the 1st time it's been mentioned. Some players have experienced similar issues. At some point, it's not up to us players in the forums to berate and put our fellow gamers down over it. It's time for the Devs to add it to their list of broken things they need to fix in the game.
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    As a person who makes a living at fixing broken things. Sometimes you have to take what is given and do the leg work and fix it. I don't expect the customers to send me back a broken product and say, "By the way, I broke it down and investigated the problem and discovered this is where the issue, then put it back together, and then sent it back so you can fix it."
    People aren't being asked to fix it. People are being asked to provide evidence of the problem. Thus far, none has been forthcoming.

    As I stated, this isn't the 1st time it's been mentioned. Some players have experienced similar issues. At some point, it's not up to us players in the forums to berate and put our fellow gamers down over it. It's time for the Devs to add it to their list of broken things they need to fix in the game.
    And without evidence, it'll get put lower down on the list in favor of issues that can be reproduced and investigated.
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    Originally Posted by Doppleganger666 Go to original post
    My clan and I just spent the evening getting spanked in Pathway Park. On hard mode. Just for context, pre WoNY we would set challenges for our selves, like ; heroic mission with only pistols, or a night of lev 4 control points with no armour on. I typically run with 1.9m armour, mini shield, heavy on repair skill, and i was getting one shot by reds. This game is broken. Unplayable. Frankly, disappointing. We LOVE this game, the whole squad has been logging way too many hours (according to our wives) since division 1 beta. Unfortunately, if the game doesn't see a marked improvement with 9.1, we're leaving. We realize that ultimately Ubi/Massive dosnt care. They have our money already, and a drop of 5 players wont matter to them, but this still needed to be said, and maybe other clans will follow.

    And to the trolls that will no doubt attack this, dont bother, i prolly wont check back here.
    Guess your squad got done near the end of mission with the steam ? just need to activate the levers that all i can think off . pathway aint that hard even Solo on challanging , sometimes you just gotta work the puzzles out , think tomb raider ..............
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    Some players have experienced similar issues.
    Indeed, and some others haven't. Quite a few people here can't wrap their heads around the fact that some bugs occur for some people sometimes, not for everybody and always.

    Just moments ago I was playing: I have world difficulty set to Challenging. Did a couple of Black Tusk activities. No problem. Leveled a CP to 4 and captured it. Did another Black Tusk activity, got my arse handed to me. I'm suspecting very strongly that difficulty is not (or not always) resetting properly after doing a bounty, mission or CP at a higher difficulty.

    No, I do not have a video of this and no, I do not intend to make one.
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    Originally Posted by Deathlyhearts Go to original post
    I refuse to believe it, because OP claimed it was happening the -entire- evening.. on Hard difficulty to a static group of players, who by his words play mostly Heroic difficulty and even set personal challenges for one another like playing with only pistols and such. I can believe if he claimed it happened once, but I can't believe it when he claims it happened during the entire evening. That's just sound like a pure exaggeration to me cause by frustration. It's fine to get frustrated but don't start twist the truth, because of that. Getting your 1.9M stripped in one shot from a red enemy on Hard sounds it could be a bug that may happen in some rare isolated case, but to be happening all evening -- that's pretty far fetched.

    Not to mention that OP's post lacked any context to beging with.. it may have been bug, it may have been not, it may have been just a error on his part that caused the wipe. Everyone does mistakes. Not many willing admit them though, especially in video games. There was also the attitude, as well.

    I might not have any personal use of a video myself, but if OP wanted anything fixed in the first place, he would've actually bothered getting one and reported this appropriately, not throwing a tantrum in the forums and calling out anyone who might potential disagree with him, cause you see -- everyone should just accept anything anyone says on the internet blindly. Riiight.

    Opinion and ego have nothing to with anything here. You know what happens, when players keep complain and complain and complain about difficulty, right? The game gets overnerfed. And I don't want to see that happen, because the gameplay is challenging and fun right now and the difficulties are just right IMO. So I will keep pushing against such topics, because if you complain about something you have to provide some solid evidence first, aside from 'Oh this is broken, fix it!' and than to expect anyone to just agree with you, because the game have it's issue.

    If that's fine by you -- you do you. But it's not fine by me.
    You don't have to go blindly into the night. Yet you attacked the OP immediately. You could have asked if he had a video, that you would like to see more evidence as you haven't seen this in the game.

    As the OP mentioned, I personally have experienced similar instances. You haven't. You have decided it's impossible cause your experiences haven't been the same. So instead of just hating, actually be useful and ask for more evidence instead of trying to tick off the poster even more. What is the variable that causes the OP to experience one thing compared to the variables you have in your game. What is he doing that you aren't?

    Or you can spread more toxicity and see if you can push a player that is already giving up on the game out faster. Once again we are not all playing the same game, contrary to the thought of some who are playing a perfect game with no bugs. While others are seeing issues that are unexplained, that can and should be explained by the Devs.
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    Originally Posted by desrocchi Go to original post
    Asking everybody to keep recording their gaming sessions is also absolutely bonkers because it requires disk space plus it is a strain on the processor.
    This isn't 2005, unless you're playing this game on a toaster this shouldn't be a factor and it would probably explain a lot more about why you're struggling with the game if you run it on such a terrible outdated PC, contrary to what Ubisoft might try to tell you 30 FPS isn't better. (Ha... Outdated AC Unity joke)
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    Originally Posted by dagrommit Go to original post
    Hence the preference for video. Having said that, if he was one-shotted by a red, the death screen wouldn't show damage from multiple enemies - thus negating that particular argument.



    My understanding is that both consoles have capture and sharing built in. Enough people stream game footage from their PC's that you'd think such a "common" problem would have been caught on video by now.
    So when Ubi or Massive wants to start paying us to do their jobs, then I will worry about doing their jobs. Meanwhile they can actually take what is provided and start looking into it.
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