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[SUGACOMA]

Also, one last thing on the name Eivor

The only place I can find any entry about it being a female only Nordic name is Wikipedia on a page created 11 days ago and has no evidence to back up it's claims ... Back to those disgruntled little boys again I think

[Aloninor]

But isn't it confirmed that we wil be bisexual? (We can be gay) also, Ubisoft was upset (it seems) that people choose Alexios over Kassandra, and already did excuse because they """forced""" hétérosexuality in Odyssey

This was absolutely not true, odyssey gave you every option to be homosexual irregardless if you played as Alexios or Kassandra

Also, one last thing on the name Eivor

The only place I can find any entry about it being a female only Nordic name is Wikipedia on a page created 11 days ago and has no evidence to back up it's claims ... Back to those disgruntled little boys again I think

(Note: The wikipedia page was not created 11 days ago but edited (created in 2016). But that's not my point.)

I do really not care if Eivor is an only male or female name, but I still think your argumentation sounds like a rant in order to criticize people who do not agree with your finding about it being a gender neutral name. So I think your statement of saying people who do not agree with this are "misogynistic" or "a disgruntled little boy" is not really a fair conclusion and very generalising of the AC community who has different preferences to your own. Not everyone disagreeing with the fact that AC should have gender choice is misogynistic

In regards to your claim that "Eivor" is a gender neutral name and no sources exists. I just did two quick searches:

1) Every mentioning of historic persons I could find, who were named Eivor, is a reference to a female character.
2) Look up the naming register for Norway, Sweden and Denmark These are basicaly registers giving up-to-date information about how many people are having a name you search for.

The numbers when looking up Eivor:

Norway:
463 women - 0 men

Sweden:
10417 women - 0 men

Denmark:
21 women - 0 men

I'm not saying it is not possible, but in these three countries the statistic is currently 10901:0!

I'm going (just as in Syndicate where ever possible, and in Odyssey) play as the female Eivor. But this has absolutely nothing to do with the name but just a personal preference

Have a nice day.

Greetings from a male dane

[Greybush1982]

Maybe it is ... But technically isnt sue, Tracy and Lesley also girls names yet boys have been called them.

John Wayne's real name was Marrion also a "girls" name

One of my children is called Kyuss and often people say it's a boys names she's a girl ... Also technically it's gender neutral. Eivor being a girls name is just people pissed that they've not made a male character so that we can continue to be misogynistic in with in the gaming world instead of embracing the fact we have many female games ( my girls included) who would like to see their own sex represented in far more games than they do, and if you have the possibility to make a game where the player can choose what sex the avatar of their experience of this story is why not .

Yes, because thinking the devs made a silly mistake when choosing the name must mean you hate women...

No matter how you try to spin and justify it, the very simple fact remains that Eivor is and always has been a 100% female name. The same does not apply to Tracy, Lesley, or Marion.
Is it a big deal? No.
Is it a weird/silly choice? Obviously.

[JKAC2013]

I like the name but hearing that is a female name i think this was a strange choice.

It give so many names what you could use for both genders, why didnt they decide for one of them? Some false leaks claimend before that the protagnist will be called Jora. What is a name for male and female und would have been maybe a better choice?

[Greybush1982]

Yeah, if you don't have any context for the name, it sounds good and maybe even like a male or unisex name.
But the same could be said for basically any name you don't have any context for, and people would definitely be wondering wtf was going on if it'd had been something like the American revolutionary Jennifer.

Like I said, it's not actually a problem (and there might even be a fair in-game explanation), but people trying all sorts of mental gymnastics to claim it's a unisex name when not only everyone from the countries it's still used in make it clear that it's not, but every available source so far says it's 100% a female name (and there has yet to be a single source that contradicts that) is just ridiculous.

[NrVr7]

So you are officially trolling now...

I just say it's a theory I thought about, but yeah it's trolling because it disturb you :| and you had to say it, because you just couldn't just quit the topic I presume?

[SUGACOMA]

Maybe I was I was wrong about the Wikipedia, it's was about 4am and with **** going on here in UK I was a bit off kilter in my thinking

I do stand my by view of most complaints about the choice of playing male or female mostly coming from male community who are not mature enough to grasp the concept that ultimately this is fiction and designed so you can role play in it as you choose making it your story.

My personal choice would be to have the modern day set up as being you. You're the person not Layla, and as such you choose male or female and from their everything is shaped around that choice .

And all of the lore would be canon to the individual shared names and references but built on the world and character you created .

The RPG element of in-game play would have to be done Witcher style in that any dialogue choices are for that character and not for you the player to shape the character ... Leave that for the modern world and allow you to then unearth the truth of what is going on and choose your side as Templar or assassin

[NrVr7]

To the people telling me that we can choose our sexuality in Odyssey, I'm talking about that https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...ed-odyssey-dlc I saw many article of that and saw a post from Ubisoft on the forum (but can't find it back), I'm not saying we couldn't choose our sexuality in Odyssey (and idc about who choose what), just find weird that they had to apologize about this one (since it's to get descendants)

But it's not directly related to my theory ofc, but could be a point that lead us to think that it's a way

[NrVr7]

Maybe I was I was wrong about the Wikipedia, it's was about 4am and with **** going on here in UK I was a bit off kilter in my thinking

I do stand my by view of most complaints about the choice of playing male or female mostly coming from male community who are not mature enough to grasp the concept that ultimately this is fiction and designed so you can role play in it as you choose making it your story.

My personal choice would be to have the modern day set up as being you. You're the person not Layla, and as such you choose male or female and from their everything is shaped around that choice .

And all of the lore would be canon to the individual shared names and references but built on the world and character you created .

The RPG element of in-game play would have to be done Witcher style in that any dialogue choices are for that character and not for you the player to shape the character ... Leave that for the modern world and allow you to then unearth the truth of what is going on and choose your side as Templar or assassin

Hmm you seems to have some kind of hate about the "male community", for my own, that's not what disturb me, the thing that disturb me is the name, I mean, what if Kassandra was called Cassios, it would be so weird too.

The thing is not choosing a male or a female, it's to respect some kind of historical event (as the game made us believe at the beginning), I'm a heterosexual guy and I've no problem playing Layla or Kassandra (I play Kassandra btw ) but what's disturb me is the lack of "truth" that the license seems to start using, to "bend" historical accuracy to put our modern way of thinking in the game, also they had historian to help them, so how could they choose to name a male with a female name? And why a female name? How would you react if the Female Eivor would have been called Henri as example

[Aloninor]

...I do stand my by view of most complaints about the choice of playing male or female mostly coming from male community who are not mature enough to grasp the concept that ultimately this is fiction and designed so you can role play in it as you choose making it your story....

First of all, for most the complaint posts you can not tell if they are male or female, how would you now, and why would that be relevant?

Secondly, yes there are complaints about the name being a female name (as mentioned multiple times in different threads) still no evidence has been presented, that the gaming community at large (irregardless of gender), is disliking the idea of choice due to misogyny (as in: "...the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls.") So no one dislikes the name because of their hatred, contempt or prejudice against of the women.

So jumping to the conclusion that every one who does not like a female name for a male character is a misogynist is just wrong, and quite frankly disrespectful.