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    Originally Posted by Player-fdc1d Go to original post
    did you bother reading rest of the post? the one you stated is for BUG FIXING. it says its in BOLD BLACK LETTERS. the one im talking about is UPCOMING NEW CONTENT in BOLD BLACK LETTERS. did you bother even reading rest of the post?
    also thats just the dmr glitch. people who dont pvp dont care.

    the AI teammates, bug fixes and new content is what players want and this affects ALL PLAYERS not just pvp dmr glitch. do you honestly think majority of the players care about dmr glitch if they are not pvping?

    this is the vital part:

    Upcoming New Content

    Our next round of upcoming new content is actively being worked on by our production team (alongside Episode 3 and the next class). We’ll have more information to share closer to the release date. Stay tuned!

    AI Teammates
    Expected Release: Summer, 2020


    Live Event 2
    Expected Release: Summer, 2020

    where does it say anywhere, june? next time read the whole thing, instead of assuming the rest from the first couple of sentences.


    Also not sure why you're taking that aggressive tone with us but yeah, we did read it and we read your post. You made a big deal of why people mentioned June even saying Ubi never mentioned June. Fact is, they did which you now acknowledge in your other post.

    You made no mention that you understood there is still a release date of June for the TU in your original post so you may want to dial back the condescending attitude a bit.


    Originally Posted by Player-fdc1d Go to original post
    june? wishful thinking..why is everyone assuming its june? ubiparis said expected summer 2020 release, ubiPARIS never mentioned june. summer goes from june - beginning of september. knowing ubiPARIS track record they ALWAYS release an update at the last minute. whos to say summer 2020 doesnt mean end of august.
    you guys should know by now ubi is notorious for misleading its consumers.

    when the update doesnt appear in june everyone here is gonna go up in arms talkin about "ubi said summer june etc etc...ubiparis lied again blah blah" nah ubi said "EXPECTED summer 2020", meaning it can be potentially be delayed again. there is no concrete release date.

    always expect the worst with ubi, just be a pessimist when it comes to ubi, therefore when your expectations isnt met you wont be disappointed.
    I also don't see people saying Ubi said anything other than what they did in this latest news. .....which is really not much to be honest.
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    Originally Posted by AI BLUEFOX Go to original post
    Come on , Crock, that is the first information released to the community that confirms the date of the AI team is within the first year. It is also the first time we have been notified about upcoming updates a few weeks in advance.

    I know it could be more, hell it should be more, but we should encourage moves in the right direction as a positive.
    I'm honestly having a hard time seeing this as a move in the right direction. They essentially told us the AI team is expected to be released sometime this Summer which could be anytime between June through Aug or Sep. .....fine but then there are no details about what they have planned for the AI teammates, new content, Ghost Experience changes or much else for that matter.

    We also know the TU will release (expectedly) in June to fix bugs. .....many issues folks have been living with since the game released 8 months ago.

    These are the same vague news bits we have always received even during the GRW days. I hate to sound cynical and nothing against you personally but I'm struggling to interpret this as a step in the right direction in regard to better, open communication regarding the state of the game, etc.

    Originally Posted by Virtual-Chris Go to original post
    I got into Wildlands in summer 2018, just over a year following release. I thought it was a great game but was aware there were a lot of shortcomings early on.

    While this game will never get close to Wildlands, it’s interesting (and pretty sad) that it won’t really be full featured until its first birthday.

    The takeaway after all is said and done here, is that I should always wait at least a year for any Ubisoft game before buying it to get the best experience it can offer.
    There really weren't though Chris. At least, nothing like Breakpoint in regard to polish, lack of content, etc. I know we disagree on this topic but that wasn't my experience at all. GRW was a complete game at launch and it played that way in the betas I participated in before preordering it. After the first update that introduced the new HUD options shortly after launch, it plays essentially the same way now as it did back then. .....not counting the content like the themed crossovers, Tier One mode, Ghost Mode, etc.
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    Well I guess we'll have to wait June for next update.

    And then Thursday July 23rd...
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    Originally Posted by AI BLUEFOX Go to original post
    Come on , Crock, that is the first information released to the community that confirms the date of the AI team is within the first year. It is also the first time we have been notified about upcoming updates a few weeks in advance.

    I know it could be more, hell it should be more, but we should encourage moves in the right direction as a positive.
    This is not a move in the right direction.

    In UBI's own words, this is more of the exact same, and they're not showing any intent to do anything but keep it like this.
    We’ll continue to do our best to keep things moving forward as usual.
    I could iterate my post, but you can look up to re-read it. This "communication" gives us nothing, except more of the same. But don't take my word for it. There's a whole forum just for their news. This latest addition to it is in lock step with every post before it.

    Or if you don't want to exposed to that much incompetence at once, you can pick any thread with a Ubi response to it.
    You saw Van's post this morning as well. It includes a fantastic summary what what we've received in the past, and then again today.
    Originally Posted by igrvks Go to original post
    - *Complete silence*
    - Soon™
    - Thank you for your feedback, I will be sure to forward it to the team
    - There is nothing we are able/willing to share about it at this time
    - I have moved this topic to the completely abandoned subforum

    Take you pick, man. Heck, pick two if you want since it's May Day eve
    Today's post isn't a step in any direction. It's a continuation right down the same track.

    Help us help Ubi understand that they don't have to have a definite answer to "when" before they can give us answers to "what".

    Keeping on your topic of team AI:
    What is the plan with them?
    What are their ideas on how to introduce them? Log in one day and *poof* you have three teammates? Complete a new mission to unlock them?
    What controls are they working on for them? Cross com? Soul swap? RoE?
    What customization options are they looking into? Outfit changes? Weapon changes?
    What other player controlled options will come along with the addition? Can we choose no AI team? Can we choose 1, or 2, or 3 AI?
    What else will they be doing to make the team AI relevant? Will there be behavior changes to the enemy AI to match the strength that the team will add to the player?

    But not just limited to the team AI. Other things we still have zero information on:
    What are their ideas for expanding or tuning immersive mode?
    What are their ideas for the myriad of UI and menu issues?
    What are their ideas for the character smith?
    What are their ideas for the gunsmith?
    What are their ideas for PvP expansion?
    What are their ideas for Quality of Life improvements?


    How about information on things that they have broken, or removed form the game with every failed patch? Or other projects that they started on and never finished(Correct magazine types on vests, anyone?)? How about a single answer to any of these:https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...ommunicate-now?

    If they want our feedback like they claim they do, then they need to get it from us before it's to late, again(again).

    What kind of feedback can be given to "June" and "Summer"?
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    Originally Posted by Kean_1 Go to original post
    I'm honestly having a hard...
    ...Tier One mode, Ghost Mode, etc.
    Kean, how is it that you persistently manage to post not a single word I disagree with?
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    Synthesizing is the buzzword this time around.
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    Based on track records live service games are definitely taking a while to become fully featured, about a year is right. I think studios underestimate the amount of work needed on the back end to build the technology to support online service games. But there's also evidence of studios turning things around.

    Once we get the year 1 content out the way I'm hoping year 2 will be completely focussed on improving and expanding the gameplay experience. Not so fussed for story as I am for depth and replayability.

    There's a fair bit of work going into the episodic content which will be sapping resources but they need to get it across the line.

    By the time we get to the end of year 2 I expect the game will be much more fully fledged and fleshed out. Yes should need to be the case but we are where we are.
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    Originally Posted by CrockfordCK Go to original post
    Kean, how is it that you persistently manage to post not a single word I disagree with?
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    Originally Posted by TrickShady Go to original post
    While i do agree with that in principle, history has already proven that even when they hold back patches and give themselves longer to fix they still release buggy. Maybe it's time they try and get a faster return of smaller fixes. People already have lost all faith in their ability to fix things maybe it's time to change how they actually approach the way they address fixes because their track record is pretty dire.
    I am 100% with you and you can not put it more eloquently than that so I am not going to tainted by posting anything else.


    Originally Posted by TrickShady Go to original post
    If we should be viewing that small amount of information as something to encourage positivity, that shows just how far standards have dropped because of this game. Some news is better than no news but there is nothing within that to be positive about, we don't know what capability ai team will have or what possibly could be another drone sponged event actually is.
    THANK YOU and BRAVO, again, it can not be said better and with clearer glasses.

    Less is more, fix 1 problem quick instead of trying to fix 20 problems in two months and break 10 more in the attempt and fix 1 or 2. Saying that you have fix the issue does not translate into being fixed.


    Originally Posted by Virtual-Chris Go to original post
    The takeaway after all is said and done here, is that I should always wait at least a year for any Ubisoft game before buying it to get the best experience it can offer.
    Yep, that's pretty much it or, in the case of breakpoint, wait 4 months and get it for less than 10 bucks.

    Originally Posted by Ballzinfern2017 Go to original post
    Synthesizing is the buzzword this time around.
    Well, I am sure the word "Trended" with the CoronaVirus but we know how they love to be "Innovators", hence, the word to use until the new ones comes out.

    Now, excuse me but I am going to synthetize some heads on the CoD MW campaign.
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    The thing is, the TU 2.0.6, will likely be released in early June, but it won't include much, just like 2.0.3. Then I suspect that we will get a proper TU 2.1.0. which will include the next Live event and AI, at the end of June 23rd-30th), since "summer" starts on Monday June 22nd.. Remember when people were freaking out when they simply said that Episode 2 would be released sometime in the Spring, only to have it released a few weeks later, on the second or third day of Spring. That would leave Episode 3 to release at the end of July to early August, the last Live event dropping in September. Since they've written off May, it only leaves them four months to release three major updates. After all , Ubi isn't going to want to be the first company, that failed to deliver Year One content, within the first calendar year..
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