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  1. #201
    Originally Posted by Megalodon26 Go to original post
    OK, then keep on bashing them over every little piece of communication. But don't be surprised if they revert to complete radio silence. And the Delta members are supposed to pass information to the devs, from us, not the other way around. But they can't be too combative, or they lose that access, like Hugo did. So it's actually counterproductive, to risk pissing off the only people that can get your ideas and thoughts about the game, directly to the devs.
    Without question there will be individuals who will bash on the game until the servers are turned off, just as there are those who will bash on the game until it is patched to a point they enjoy it, but what about the individuals who desire quality open communication in dev streams or if Delta actually functioned as advertised where people in the Delta Comms could have the info to create a discussion over future content? Something, anything more than just a forum post here and there. They helped create this state in the fanbase and the way many people see it, they haven't changed or done anything substantial to address improving their communication.
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  2. #202
    Originally Posted by Megalodon26 Go to original post
    OK, then keep on bashing them over every little piece of communication. But don't be surprised if they revert to complete radio silence. And the Delta members are supposed to pass information to the devs, from us, not the other way around. But they can't be too combative, or they lose that access, like Hugo did. So it's actually counterproductive, to risk pissing off the only people that can get your ideas and thoughts about the game, directly to the devs.
    Wrong again. (And don't take this as an affront against you.)

    "Company Comms Detachment - Conversation enthusiasts, you'll be empowered to drive riveting discussions thanks to Q&As direct from the Studio."

    At the most this describes a two-way street for information to flow from the Devs to us, and from us back to the devs via DC. At the least it describes a flow of information from the Devs to DC.

    As has been stated before, Ubisoft is not a few guys who developed this game in their basement. In a situation like that, yes, I can see them being annoyed, angry, bitter, and even hurt of a lot of the remarks made on these forums. But take an honest look at these forums. We have maybe 2 dozen posters that are regularly active. You really think this comes down to a multi-million dollar company with "over a thousand developers" on this one title, not wanting to communicate with their thousands upon thousands upon thousands of customers because 20 frustrated enthusiasts said "Hey, you *******s lied again!"?
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    There's a lot more readers than writers on the forum, but in any case the forum is a sample of all the players, and as important to Ubisoft, potential players, across all the media platforms and outlets and the community sentiment is seen as an important indicator. Yves Guillemot even referred to it in the recent investors call.

    The resonance of what is written here has more impact than some may think. Not as much as perhaps we'd all like, but it is significant.
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  4. #204
    I understand all that Blue, and I wasn't intending to say that that the feedback provided by our dysfunctional forum family is or should have little impact. Quite the opposite actually. But as many have said there will always be "trolls" or those who will bad mouth the game regardless of any progress. We all know that. We all accept that. Yet here you(and others) are, painting a narrative that Ubi hadn't realized this. Never mind their 34 years in the industry? Never mind that their other studios have been experiencing incredibly similar situations, but instead are acting on it. Take a peak at the Division forums, and tell me they earned their communications because of their "positive tone".

    UbiParis is not hesitant to communicate because it's their first day of pre-school and they're afraid "The other kids might not like them.".
    UbiParis is hesitant to communicate, simply, because they are not competent enough for the task of "Breakpoint".

    And for some reason, they can't stop lying...
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    I think a big problem is we got people like Blue who's got everyone here fooled into thinking he's on your side, but he's biased and cherry picks what feedback to send up. He doesn't want holstering weapons or incognito driving so he doesn't pass that feedback along. He's a major contributor to the failure that is Breakpoint.
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  6. #206
    Originally Posted by Ballzinfern2017 Go to original post
    I think a big problem is we got people like Blue who's got everyone here fooled into thinking he's on your side, but he's biased and cherry picks what feedback to send up. He doesn't want holstering weapons or incognito driving so he doesn't pass that feedback along. He's a major contributor to the failure that is Breakpoint.
    I disagree with this as being fact. But that is a valid concern regarding any Delta Company member, and lots of us have voiced it since the announcement of DC. But again, none of any of this is anyone fault except UbiParis.
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    Originally Posted by Megalodon26 Go to original post
    It's true though, to a degree. The community is so enraged, that it doesn't really matter if they give a quick update, on one or two specific items, or post full patch notes. Someone is going to attack them for something. SO if the devs don't feel like the information they release is appreciated, then they have no incentive to be more transparent. And having paid for the game, is not an excuse. We paid for the content, not the communication.
    But again, that is the biggest and childish load of crap because if the game would be well liked, and the patches would come in at a decent amount of time, more so with the whole BS excuse that Always Online requirement is for the player's benefit and they communicated like other Companies do (no need to rehash who those other companies are) then, it would not matter how many people would complain because the majority of the community members would defend the studio as well. So far, the only one making excuses for them are a few people whereas 98% of the community feels irate, yet, the fault is the community not being patience or understanding enough? This is in no way an insult to you by the way.

    Wildlands was throwing better patches and quicker than Breakpoint, so what is this advantage of the Live Service thingy?


    Originally Posted by Megalodon26 Go to original post
    OK, then keep on bashing them over every little piece of communication. But don't be surprised if they revert to complete radio silence. And the Delta members are supposed to pass information to the devs, from us, not the other way around. But they can't be too combative, or they lose that access, like Hugo did. So it's actually counterproductive, to risk pissing off the only people that can get your ideas and thoughts about the game, directly to the devs.
    I don't know about other people but nothing that Ubi does surprises me, in a good way anyways.

    Originally Posted by CrockfordCK Go to original post
    I disagree with this as being fact. But that is a valid concern regarding any Delta Company member, and lots of us have voiced it since the announcement of DC. But again, none of any of this is anyone fault except UbiParis.
    Even I disagree up to a point but I still feel that the Delta Company members are too close to the other side and will take their side quicker than the side of the community but that is just my opinion. It is kinda like the HR personnel that work for a certain company, they are not really there for the employees but more for who is buttering their bread.
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  8. #208
    I got involved with Delta to make sure the right feedback and messaging got to the studio. I was angry at the state of the game on release and wanted to do what I could to try and influence where possible to nudge things back in the right direction. My intention is always to be objective and unbiased and to represent you lot. If I didn't think we could make a difference then I would quit. But I do think we can, so I'm sticking around and patiently waiting to see where things go.
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  9. #209
    the people who defend this game couldnt tell the difference between chocolate and feces, which is why you dumbdumbs defend this game.

    people go to the store to buy a hershey bar but instead come out with a piece of sheit covered in aluminum foil and defend it saying, " no its hersheys, you guys just dont know what chocolate is, you guys are the idiots." this is the mentality of the people who defend ubi PERIOD.

    btw did you see the new ASSassins creed trailer which they labelled "gameplay," which was completely just a cg trailer, another misleading deception in the making by the infamous ubi.

    speak with your wallets not with your mouths.
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