This last 4 odd weeks and infact since ~WoNY was released iv'e been on challenging difficulty and sometimes Heroic, been trying to max a build but with no luck (with this crappy loot RNG)
So i decided to go down to normal mode for a laugh and see if things are any different, been there for a couple of days now and boy am I having a blast,
Loot drops have been somewhat the same crap , mind you I got a almost max rolled Tsunami shotgun that's better than the one I picked uop in challenging, then I took over the Vault CP on Normal level 2 , what did I get out of the big yellow crate 2 yes 2 green gear pieces both ok ish.
Iv'e even put together a purple/Yellow build that's quite fun.
But i'm using my 2 million Armour all blue build and boy it feels like a proper armour/Tank build, at one stage I had my minigun out and went toe to toe with a minigun heavy elite Two Tanks with mini guns facing each other (I won the fight) couldn't do that on challenging (i'd be down in no time even with 2 million armour), all in all the game feels fresh and fun.
Getting into some crazy fights with so many factions walking by or already fighting with more joining in, to be brutally honest I don't care about the loot anymore or how difficult it is, i'm just shooting sht up for the fun of it, with my build feeling and acting like I would expect it to do.
So i'm staying down in normal for the foreseeable future , it's too much fun and no need to fret/worry or be concerned over the loot drops.
Im still playing the base game (wony not cheapy here), and i had fun on hard and challenging modes. No need to go heroic, it´s just nonsense to get a PVE game and try hard to maximize your setup when you can use what you already have to play with random people.
IF we were talking about pvp, it could be any reasonable to get better stuff, but even then, the cycles you have to complete (missions, bounties...) have no end and dont pay enough in the end. BUT PVP is a walking dead in this game.
this kind of grinding gameplay is not pro consumer at all. Massive isnt thinking of making the best with out time by offering a BIASED rng system with no decent payouts or anything added to the story or world completion in the end.
A truly hardcore game wouldn't have this option. So all that talk is BS.
Plus the devs made it so there nothing exclusive to heroic worth the extra effort if you aren't built for it. hardcore? NO.
More people need to play at the diff they are comfortable at and move on. And then, instead of debating each other about difficulty we can gang up on the devs about the real problems, bugs and features.
Been playing at the difficulties i'm comfortable with.Originally Posted by Spidey456 Go to original post
I exclusively play Challenging solo, and sometimes I solo Heroic challenging is where i'm comfortable, So not quite sure what you are on about.
I went down to normal to test to see if there is a loot difference and enjoyed the way the game played a lot better than challenging and Heroic.
As for the loot it's virtually no difference, yet I can still pick up the od max roll, Tsunami shotgun/Punk Drunk Gloves et-al, and out of a normal CP I got two greens from the yellow crate, in my 1000 hours of this game iv'e never got two out of that crate on CP3/4's and on challenging or Heroic.
This is a game not a hardcore game it's for all hence why we have 6 difficulties covering all abilities, and those who are h/Core and those who are not have the opportunity to play at any setting they fancy. Ergo-me going down to Normal for the hell of it., as I said I enjoyed is so much i'm staying there and have no concern on what loot drops from now on.
To be Brutally honest here I don't care if players run Legendary solo in 10 mins flat with a pistol and one hand tied behind their back, makes no difference to me what others do.
The only reason I'm dipping into Heroic is because it makes all those smaller events feel much bigger..
Like just patrol will take me out in a heart beat,where in the lower tiers I can almost stand out of cover for little bit and take shots..
Not Dog shots or sniper shots, but most other shots..
Heroic, keeps things tight for me..I like that..
Normal and challenge are fun for when I want to take out some frustration from getting owned in heroic..it's really good for that.. Just going in and slaughtering dudes and taking it out on them..lol
The gear in the lower tiers is just terrible for me..
The only reason to play this game is to play the game..because there are no rewards in stuff you gather..
I don't even know if we have a main goal anymore,other than ,this is what life is like in an apocalypse so get used to it ,Goal..lol
so if you asked me... which is better...
5 directives Normal... versus 4 directives Hard....
I would say the latter... Hard ..4 directives.
Not that you asked me.
I would find normal boring over Hard anyways... but i am glad you are enjoying it =)
With my boredom i took to raising my alt from lvl 30 to lvl 40.
I might do another later today... or maybe just work on that alt and complete manhunt since all 3 are active on it.
I totally get it, I just went down for a loot comparison, but hey if we are having fun no matter what difficulty then that's all there is too it, if I find it gets too boring i'll go upto hard, and that's the beauty of this game the difficulty settings we can do as we please.Originally Posted by zigMAGNA Go to original post
This clearly shows that dev balance this on normal or even hard where every built is viable...
Tanks have a place in normal where you can actually feels like a tank instead of getting your armor off in 2 sec on heroic or challenging...
They really have no idea of heroic or challenging right now....
They don't even have played any legendary i think.... that's why they are not worth to do.....
Still waiting for this game to be Playable again....
Those who enjoy getting shredded at challenge or at heroic or really want a challenge....
Enjoy and also, play it with 5 directory on....
Yea, it's a nice option that we didn't have for the first year, other than in missions..Originally Posted by Cadillac-Jack Go to original post
plus now the CP resets on top of that now too..