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  1. #11
    Valk is probably even worse than PK. And that says a lot.
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  2. #12
    Originally Posted by Goat_of_Vermund Go to original post
    Valk is probably even worse than PK. And that says a lot.
    As a player of both, absolutely not.
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  3. #13
    I honestly can't even understand a lot of your guy's problems with her. Blows my mind tbh. She gets bash into a sweep or mix in a team fight. If they stand there they're getting smacked.

    If we're on PS4 we should do customs, for fun and for practice and knowledge?

    There's honestly so much in her kit it's not easy to discuss her like we could pk or orochi lol.
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  4. #14
    Originally Posted by iadvisoryi Go to original post
    I honestly can't even understand a lot of your guy's problems with her. Blows my mind tbh. She gets bash into a sweep or mix in a team fight. If they stand there they're getting smacked.

    If we're on PS4 we should do customs, for fun and for practice and knowledge?

    There's honestly so much in her kit it's not easy to discuss her like we could pk or orochi lol.
    It is just that Valk is of course playable and have mix ups.. but to be frank it is not hard to see that at this point most heros have a stronger kit both in duel and 4s.

    I think goat is on PC.
    With covid i am stuck in my family house for at least 2 weaks again.. without my ps4 :/

    But if you want just pm me and we could do some games by the end of may hopefully 🤞
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  5. #15
    Originally Posted by Siegfried-Z Go to original post
    It is just that Valk is of course playable and have mix ups.. but to be frank it is not hard to see that at this point most heros have a stronger kit both in duel and 4s.

    I think goat is on PC.
    With covid i am stuck in my family house for at least 2 weaks again.. without my ps4 :/

    But if you want just pm me and we could do some games by the end of may hopefully 🤞
    If you got the PSN messages app or the psn app, message/add me @ VeryOriginall
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  6. #16
    The only thing she lost of statistical value was a proper delay window to sweep and her shield tackle having a hard knock down. We could argue her side dodge attacks were nerfed too. but I don't think that was a big deal. We could revert the nerf. But it wouldn't do much in the grand scheme of things.

    Valk's problems are:

    ~Poor damage profile
    ~Poor mid chain mix up
    ~Less than average defensive capabilities

    She has some nice defensive options especially post rework. but the lack of a decent zone means she has to overly rely on her back dash stance to disengage. Most heros at this point have some sort of tool that lets them option select decently well via their zone. She doesn't afaik. And her mid chain is poor because you can dodge the shield crush mix up on heavy indicator to avoid both the heavy and the soft feint to bash. yes, she "can" cover the mix up for safety via inputting a light or heavy after a whiff. But neither are particularly strong.

    Her, kensei, and nuxia have a mid chain mix up that are supposed to help them get to their strong finishers. Valk's are the weakest imo. The shield hits have nothing to play off of in order to make their special property really have a chance of coming into play. And her heavy finishers are not unblockable or undodgable and often have poor range.

    Old valk wasn't better. Both versions of Valk are bad/incomplete. Just in different ways.
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  7. #17
    been playing valk since the launch, rep 34. Think she just needs better damage values and HP. Some of her heavies deal slightly more damage than other heroes' lights
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