Does conq suck? | Forums

[Mtcmnkk]

Damn alright I guess I suck then ill get to practice

[Frozty85]

He is too defence oriented for the game.

The heavys are too slow and can be dodged or blocked very easily, and the lights, well you dont get more then 2 hits in before that chain is stopped.
The unblocakble takes way too long time to activate and the animation is paintfully slow.. uppercut unblocable is fine but it is a defence reaction move so again, concq is too defensive.
The light was given a mutch needed buff, but in return they removed block heal.

BP is just overall a mutch better choise, so yes conq is in need of a rework.

[garr1999]

One that gives him the ability to feint ngl it sucks going from being
able to normally feint to having to use FB to feint it just feels wierd.

[Erhanninja]

I disagree that WL is on same level with Conq.

First of all not being able to feint hurts Conq a lot. It really affects his offense. My only option to GB someone is from neutral for no reason. Even if I cancel into FB other player very easily cancels his heavy most of the time because unlike normal feint enemy has to commit to the attack. It's also high risk of GB just like charged heavy. It's not completely useless but other heroes like WL and Aramusha can do FB and feint especially Aramusha FB in my opinion is very strong.

Another issue is his third level feats. I have no choice but to choose bomb because heal on block and punch through nerfed so hard they are basically useless. Even his 4th level are very mediocre. Nothing special.

Also another issue throwing a light twice from same direction comes out slower than a heavy. I really don't understand the logic or is it really intended.

What annoys me the most thou is SB GB vulnerability. I get GBed even half way.

Conq got nerfed to remove free GB after heavy and "compensated" somehow.

I like to play as Conq but I think he is behind. Whatever he does others can do better.

[MCBooma16]

I try to play like Fishmo, as he has to be the best Conq I've ever seen.

With the recent changes to GB vulnerability, this makes any antigank even harder than it already was with conq. I don't know. The only decent offense Conq has is the SB, and that's just not how I want to play this character. Nothing else really works.

[Mtcmnkk]

I disagree that WL is on same level with Conq.

First of all not being able to feint hurts Conq a lot. It really affects his offense. My only option to GB someone is from neutral for no reason. Even if I cancel into FB other player very easily cancels his heavy most of the time because unlike normal feint enemy has to commit to the attack. It's also high risk of GB just like charged heavy. It's not completely useless but other heroes like WL and Aramusha can do FB and feint especially Aramusha FB in my opinion is very strong.

Another issue is his third level feats. I have no choice but to choose bomb because heal on block and punch through nerfed so hard they are basically useless. Even his 4th level are very mediocre. Nothing special.

Also another issue throwing a light twice from same direction comes out slower than a heavy. I really don't understand the logic or is it really intended.

What annoys me the most thou is SB GB vulnerability. I get GBed even half way.

Conq got nerfed to remove free GB after heavy and "compensated" somehow.

I like to play as Conq but I think he is behind. Whatever he does others can do better.

Warlord is way better than conq, he was my first main. This isn't about black prior either I don't want to play those characters I want to play conq

After practicing and watching videos he definitely sucks. Any decent attacks is based of his full guard or superior block/crushing counter thing. His punish is good but that's lame anyways. Bash is complete garbage. needs more starting with hyper armor... bad. Ubi has shown so many old chars like the warden love, give some to conq

[ArchDukeInstinct]

Sup y'all og here, not with the forums but with the game. Rep 84 I have no problem with my mains raider zerker and Highlander. I want to play conq but I find him terribly terrible. Do I suck or does the conq suck? does anyone know of videos I can watch to get myself better with him thanks

Yeah he sucks. Sure he's not the absolute bottom of the pack as at least he has some offense still with shield bash, but there's way better picks that fit the same role such as Black Prior.

I predicted this disaster with Conqueror back in the beginning of February when they first announced that they were going to change the charging option select and told them way ahead of time that they needed to give some sort of offensive buffs to compensate for it or it was going to ruin the class. Instead they dropped another large nerf on him, changing his GB vulnerability on heavies from 100ms to 433ms and gave a huge buff to Warden, who is already the best duelist in the game, because uhh... reasons???

I'd say pick him up because he lives up to the tank name and it's rare that happens in fh Lol, on top of that you might not get as many kills, but you have good clear, and amazing defense, you can hold your own for quite a long time.

Conqueror does the worst job in the game of living up to a "name".
Hard hitter -> Joke since day 1.
Strong Defense -> Hardly the case anymore.

As far as I am aware, the charged heavy from the top is 44 damage.

The top heavy has garbage range and is slower than side heavy. It's only usable in a gank and even then if the opponent dodges around your teammate they can easily keep out of range. There's much better characters to have for a team fight.

[Erhanninja]

Exactly my points...I really wanted to drop Conq and start playing BP because he is superior in every way but I don't want to play because it's easier to win and BP is very cheesy.

Yes we all want to play like Fishmo. I have been watching him for years. But not everybody can play like him. Thats why he is on YouTube and we are watching.

Range is also massive issue. He has range of an ice cream stick. Literally if the guy walks back attack don't reach.

Seriously I will be super happy if they deceease this ridiculously unfair GB vulnerability on his bashes. The time frame is so massive. Oh yeah also his heavy vulnerability for GB is a joke. I get Gbed a lot in middle of my heavy.

Also his running bash. It used to give heavy attack. I use half of my stamina for that and give massive revenge now I get nothing. I have to very precisely bash into light even then people dodge it a lot of times.

They go give buff over and over strongest offense Warden SB and nerf already struggling heroes. I play Nobu and Conq which got nerfed over and over. I very much doubt these heroes will get a rework or buff. They focus on new heroes more.

[garr1999]

I think the reason for the warden buff was to prepare him for the TG
changes (coming soon™)

[Mtcmnkk]

Yeah he sucks. Sure he's not the absolute bottom of the pack as at least he has some offense still with shield bash, but there's way better picks that fit the same role such as Black Prior.

I predicted this disaster with Conqueror back in the beginning of February when they first announced that they were going to change the charging option select and told them way ahead of time that they needed to give some sort of offensive buffs to compensate for it or it was going to ruin the class. Instead they dropped another large nerf on him, changing his GB vulnerability on heavies from 100ms to 433ms and gave a huge buff to Warden, who is already the best duelist in the game, because uhh... reasons???



Conqueror does the worst job in the game of living up to a "name".
Hard hitter -> Joke since day 1.
Strong Defense -> Hardly the case anymore.



The top heavy has garbage range and is slower than side heavy. It's only usable in a gank and even then if the opponent dodges around your teammate they can easily keep out of range. There's much better characters to have for a team fight.

Thanks you for your input. To be successful he has to rely on his crushing counters which are very hard now because I they changed the visuals to the guard input. I think that was it, i stopped playing around then so I can't exactly remember. Almost every character has hyper armor, a "heavy who hits hard" should too. Then something needs to be changed to full block stamina, unblockable charge up time or whatever for either of those two if nothing gets added to his kit.