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    Oatiecrumble's Avatar Senior Member
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    Dear Ubi/Massive, some clarification please

    Dear Ubi/Massive

    Just some information first:

    I have played TD1 from the beginning right up until TD2 came out, i stuck with TD1 through all the hard times it had and in the end it came through as possibly one of the best games i have ever played.

    When i heard of the news of TD2 i was very excited, especially when i read you say "We have learned by our mistakes with TD1"

    Now i knew there would be problems with TD2 from the start, that is something that happens with all games.

    I have like many others stuck with TD2 whilst you have made many changes, mostly good changes and hats of to you for listening to the community for most parts.

    When i read up on TU8 i thought "Yes, this is what we have been asking for, maybe not all of it but it's on track"

    Also when you said that you don't want hybrid builds anymore i thought "Fair enough, it was good whilst it lasted"

    Then TU8 came out, all was fine, loot was great, gameplay was great, everything was great (bugs aside)

    Then came the latest update on the 07/04/20 and everything loot side went downhill.

    I don't know where and why it went downhill so hopefully you will be able to answer, your answer will help me decide whether i carry on playing or move on to something else:

    • Is the loot system right now working as intended?
    • Is skill based gear meant to roll mostly red attributes (kinda defeats the hybrid builds you was trying to avoid)?
    • Is weapon based gear meant to roll mostly yellow attributes (kinda defeats the hybrid builds you was trying to avoid)?
    • Did the latest update break the loot system?
    • Are you in discussion with the team about how the loot system is right now?
    • Do you agree or disagree that something does not look right?

    This is not a rant, more of i need some answers as i tried for many months to get my 3 sons to play this game with me and i finally got them to join me, we have been having a blast since TU7 and was having a blast in TU8.....right up until 07/04/20.

    I have been trying to persuade/encourage them to stay and keep telling them it must be a bug or something, i have now got to a point of lying to them saying "Ubisoft are aware of this problem" just so they don't stop playing and we can carry on having the blasts in chat and in game like we have been having since TU7.

    Well the lie side of things is not so much a lie, just a little one as i'm pretty sure Ubisoft is aware of this due to how many posts there have been about this subject.

    My confusion is not so much about how high the rolls are but more about the colors of the attributes rolling with gear.

    I ain't one to do long posts but this shows how much i want to keep playing this game, this took me quite sometime to do getting all these screenshots and transferring them from Xbox to the forum so i do hope too that you can atleast give some feedback to my questions above.

    Between myself and my three sons we have a total of 22 builds, none of them even closely fully optimized, we mostly play on heroic mode (XB1) and since 07/04/20 not one of us have had a upgrade/change out of all the 22 builds, we are constantly looking for the right brands and when we do finally get the brand it is broken with the problem i am posting about....

    Please see my attached screenshots i have done for the last 3-4 days of some of the loot, and links to other people who have shared their concerns about the loot system.

    Sorry it's a very long list, but it's the only way i can show how bad it really is.






































    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...ed-drastically
    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...n-challenging-)
    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...-really-broken
    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...0-Nerf-to-loot
    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...6-Loot-Quality
    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...-latest-update
    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...t-Rainbow-loot
    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...-feel-happines
    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...ed-better-Loot
    https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision...ones_analysis/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision...y_strongholds/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision...se_in_my_view/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision...g_massive_can/

    My fingers are killing me
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    Sadly that's how my loot runs look, so iv'e given up actually picking most of it up of the ground.

    There is something way wrong with the distribution of colours on gear, I did a green gear set run 40 pieces picked up and everyone had the exact opposite of what I wanted or the colour it's set is meant to be about.
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    At this point it is flat out dishonest and cowardly for this issue to not be addressed. Since the latest update loot is actually completely broken... although that is only if it wasn't intentional.

    And if that's the case we deserve an acknowledgement that they know it and are working on it or that they want to encourage more hybrid builds... anything but pretending we are all crazy.
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    This is the kind of crap I get all day. Its pointless to pick any of it up. If this is working as intended then it may be time to move on to something else because this is pure **** and I'm just wasting my time. And in the next update we'll be able to upgrade/re-roll exotics. Big friggin deal, how about letting us get some decent gear instead of worrying about exotics that they themselves said aren't supposed to be the best in game.

    **** exotics. Give me some good rolls on gear that makes sense and I'll be happy.

    Maybe I'll just take a break from this game for a while, check back at a later date and see if anything has changed.
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    It's not impossible to get a good set together, but it can be tough.

    And by the way, there's nothing wrong with playing something else.
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    Yeap pretty much how my loots look lately. Got plenty of Skill gear with red attribute and Offensive gear with yellow or blue attribute. Triple max rolls have been rainbow for quite a while. Also when I get triple red, one of it tends to be weapon handling, like a lot of the time. Definitely feels like rolls are not exactly random and weighted to certain stats.
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    I'd love to see better disparity of "good" loot on higher difficulties.

    I would like to correct something, though.

    Hybrids builds are not a problem, in general. It's the effectiveness of them that was the problem.

    https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    In this image, the bottom graph should never under any circumstance out-damage the above through weapon damage.While the above graph, should never deal out better Skills or Defense than the bottom graph. Hybrids, can exist but for builds you need to figure out how you want to play that game within the rules and then use pieces for that.
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    It went downhill because, THEY ALREADY GOT YOUR MONEY AND THEY DONT CARE-ABOUT YOU. they said screw off we will do what we want, fuvk you
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    Massive is way too dumb to understand this.

    The only answer you're gonna get is: IT'S WORKING AS INTENDED
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    It feels like certain brands weigh towards certain rolls. I almost always get entirely red rolls with Sokolov or Arialdi, as an example, which makes sense because they are DPS brands.

    But then I get stuff like all yellows Providence over and over and nothing makes sense again.
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