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    Exotics

    So after SOTG’s dumb, Massive, when are you going to add “truely exotic” items that are best in slot and not just a unique way to play the game cause now i need a new reason to grind ?
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    Hopefully never. Exotics that are "best in slot" would kill build diversity in the same way the overpowered M1A currently kills diversity for DPS builds - with the addition that people would be more frustrated because the strong builds that they see on Youtube would then be tied to items that rarely drop.

    Why would you need "a reason to grind"? Either you enjoy the gameplay, then you don't need a carrot on a stick to make you play. Or you don't enjoy the gameplay, then it's better to move on to a different game instead of forcing yourself through an unenjoyable experience just to get to that carrot some dev has placed at the end.
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    Originally Posted by Psyringe Go to original post
    Hopefully never. Exotics that are "best in slot" would kill build diversity in the same way the overpowered M1A currently kills diversity for DPS builds - with the addition that people would be more frustrated because the strong builds that they see on Youtube would then be tied to items that rarely drop.

    Why would you need "a reason to grind"? Either you enjoy the gameplay, then you don't need a carrot on a stick to make you play. Or you don't enjoy the gameplay, then it's better to move on to a different game instead of forcing yourself through an unenjoyable experience just to get to that carrot some dev has placed at the end.
    How would exotics kill build diversity ? and when have they ever been best in slot , ? i have a couple of god rolled exotics and they are wall hangers , I wish my AR was rolled like they are ..If they give us exotics to use on different builds , healer , skills that work , weapons etc etc . They can all be used as a platform for a GOOD build.

    They killed build diversity with this stupid update , no talents , less mods , weaker weapons and gear with bigger numbers . Numbers may look good but do nothing for diversity ..

    And as for the m1 the devs want it this way , Maybe they thought it would be easier to balance if we all run with the same builds .. but that backfired in big time....

    We can only have build diversity if the devs allow us to have it , and stop killing the builds ..

    Lastly this is a looter shooter , take away the loot (just like the devs are doing) and we just have a boring shooter .. Yes some of us need something to grind for , that is why we play , to collect the loot build a god build and have fun .. it is only a carrot on a stick when it is locked away in area all can not get to or do..

    So 2 things we need in this game is loot and build diversity , without it the game will die ..
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    Originally Posted by Psyringe Go to original post
    Hopefully never. Exotics that are "best in slot" would kill build diversity in the same way the overpowered M1A currently kills diversity for DPS builds - with the addition that people would be more frustrated because the strong builds that they see on Youtube would then be tied to items that rarely drop.

    Why would you need "a reason to grind"? Either you enjoy the gameplay, then you don't need a carrot on a stick to make you play. Or you don't enjoy the gameplay, then it's better to move on to a different game instead of forcing yourself through an unenjoyable experience just to get to that carrot some dev has placed at the end.
    how can they kill build diversity when build diversity has been dead since Warlords dropped?
    Exotics need to become Best in slot or they need to scrap the "1 Exotic Armor, 1 Exotic Weapon" Rule and go back to the way it was in div 1 where we can an exotic in each slot if we wanted. thats the reason the rule exists because exotics are meant to be extremely powerful but to help balance it out you arent allowed more then 2.
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    Originally Posted by SGTR0CK117 Go to original post
    So after SOTG’s dumb, Massive, when are you going to add “truely exotic” items that are best in slot and not just a unique way to play the game cause now i need a new reason to grind ?
    Did you miss the part where the Devs specifically stated that the purpose of exotics are NOT to be best-in-slot BUT are meant to provide agents with an option for a unique playstyle, should they so choose?
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    I didn't know we had options in this game
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    Originally Posted by Goo-Goo-Man Go to original post
    Did you miss the part where the Devs specifically stated that the purpose of exotics are NOT to be best-in-slot BUT are meant to provide agents with an option for a unique playstyle, should they so choose?
    An exotic for a unique play style ? Who are they trying to joke ?. exotics are just wall hangers , yes they are usable , but JUST , , yes i collect them it gives me something to farm for ,

    But they do nothing for the game .. like gear sets they are broken , useless junk
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    Originally Posted by Psyringe Go to original post
    Exotics that are "best in slot" would kill build diversity in the same way the overpowered M1A currently kills diversity for DPS builds.
    Dude, i don't know what game you are referring to, but in Division 2 there's just one build for solo players: full red. Otherwise you can't play heroic difficulty - skills don't have the power needed to kill enemies and tanky builds just take two hits more before you die. So what 'build diversity' are you talking about.
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    Originally Posted by Angry_Gekko Go to original post
    Dude, i don't know what game you are referring to, but in Division 2 there's just one build for solo players: full red. Otherwise you can't play heroic difficulty - skills don't have the power needed to kill enemies and tanky builds just take two hits more before you die. So what 'build diversity' are you talking about.
    I'm talking about Division 2, the game in which I'm currently having a lot of fun playing 7 different builds solo (3 red, 2 yellow, 2 blue). The red builds are actually my least successful ones, but that's probably due to me being old, slow, and having terrible aim. One of the blue builds currently works best for me on Heroic, but I enjoy yellow builds more.

    I know that "the meta" currently seems to claim that only red builds are viable. Good thing that I usually completely ignore "the meta" and do my own stuff, I guess.

    That said, even if there was _zero_ build diversity currently in Div2, that would not invalidate my point that having best-in-slot exotics would be _bad_ for build diversity.
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    Originally Posted by hyper---sniper Go to original post
    An exotic for a unique play style ? Who are they trying to joke ?. exotics are just wall hangers , yes they are usable , but JUST , , yes i collect them it gives me something to farm for ,

    But they do nothing for the game .. like gear sets they are broken , useless junk
    Keep on playing and you'll come to recognize the usefulness of some of the exotics.

    And just because you don't find something useful does not mean another agent does not as well - game caters for everyone, not just you.

    Case-in-point: I find them very useful and definitely not wall hangars.
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