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[Sweaty_Sock]

Think Raime summed BP up perfectly, there is no need to nerf anything other than a couple of tweaks you might be able to argue for on what the flip applies too (his needed post launch nerfs seem to have made him pretty manageable now). I think alot of the angst towards bulwark misses the point that a miss-timed bulkwalk doesn't just net a GB, it actually drops BP's guard meaning its a death sentence in a gank if you mess it up. If they did tweak the flip attack then i would hope they remove wall collision from it at the same time.

Regarding the bash spam, this isnt unique to BP (conq gets 19 damage off his with his bash damage feat) and is a case of learning to react to and punish it, or preempting it and throwing a side light to catch him in startup

[Goat_of_Vermund]

Think Raime summed BP up perfectly, there is no need to nerf anything other than a couple of tweaks you might be able to argue for on what the flip applies too (his needed post launch nerfs seem to have made him pretty manageable now). I think alot of the angst towards bulwark misses the point that a miss-timed bulkwalk doesn't just net a GB, it actually drops BP's guard meaning its a death sentence in a gank if you mess it up. If they did tweak the flip attack then i would hope they remove wall collision from it at the same time.

Regarding the bash spam, this isnt unique to BP (conq gets 19 damage off his with his bash damage feat) and is a case of learning to react to and punish it, or preempting it and throwing a side light to catch him in startup

I think you don't get it. Most players complaining here have never seen something called a "missed bulwark". They probably spam attacks mindlessly in a gank, then are surprised when flipped. Complaining is much easier than finding solutions and reasoning.

[Sweaty_Sock]

I think you don't get it. Most players complaining here have never seen something called a "missed bulwark". They probably spam attacks mindlessly in a gank, then are surprised when flipped. Complaining is much easier than finding solutions and reasoning.

I did restrain from going into any detail on recover cancel into all guard.

Sometimes its worth pointing out so maybe people might learn something

[Erhanninja]

I think you don't get it. Most players complaining here have never seen something called a "missed bulwark". They probably spam attacks mindlessly in a gank, then are surprised when flipped. Complaining is much easier than finding solutions and reasoning.

Not necessarily. I personally see a lot of missed Bulwark but let me tell you I never saw anybody dying from it. I said this before and I will say again. Your opponent doesnt know if you are gonna do a Bulwark or not or if you gonna miss it or not. By the time people realise you miss the bulwark and they try to punish it most of the time it's too late. Even if you catch it he gets revenge mostly from multiple external attacks. I'm not calling for nerf but move is very strong and very safe in group fights as it's intended.

Also for Conq bash into light you said yourself only 19 damage with light plus second level feat help is that a lot? Normal light damage is 18? Conq has one of the lowest damage values in this game.