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  1. #31
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    Originally Posted by K0bra.. Go to original post
    I think there is a clear diffrence between glitches,exploits,bug that hurt other people(fun) and some that dont.It hurts nobody it even benefits other people who are new to the raid.Maybe you should put that long stick out of your something.
    Are you joking? It impacts the games economy. There are people with over 2000 raid completions. At an average of 6 items per box, they have received 11,688 additional gear items compared to a non cheater (I discounted 52 weeks worth of gear as non-glitched).
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    Why

    -link deleted. - SevenNVD

    Could you send the link pm ?
    So weird that if i hear widz or who that guy is they start cover everything ..
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    Originally Posted by mrwtw Go to original post
    Are you joking? It impacts the games economy. There are people with over 2000 raid completions. At an average of 6 items per box, they have received 11,688 additional gear items compared to a non cheater (I discounted 52 weeks worth of gear as non-glitched).
    theres auction house here? how exactly this affect YOUR gameplay???

    if everyone should use same lvl/number of items its better dont play a rpg, dont you agreed?
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    Originally Posted by mrwtw Go to original post
    Are you joking? It impacts the games economy. There are people with over 2000 raid completions. At an average of 6 items per box, they have received 11,688 additional gear items compared to a non cheater (I discounted 52 weeks worth of gear as non-glitched).
    Game economy....
    They would have played something diffrent than the raid when this glitch wouldnt work.Logic right?So they would get their loot somewhere else + less players who play the raid and help other/or new people to get into the raid and explain the mechanics and stuff and less people who find clans and friends over this because its recommended to use voice.The socialize aspect.You know? It helps people dont harm them.
    But what do i try to tell you just narrow minded.Makes no sense to argue with you.
    Like i said they should just change it to that you get every raid fresh keys and people dont have to do wonky stuff.
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    Originally Posted by Vekstell Go to original post
    O.p so your sayin you took advantage of a bug/glitch/exploit that the devs did not intend to be in the game sound pretty simple then you should be banned along with every one who willing took part in it.
    As for the streamer/s don't worry they wont get banned since there clearly not held to the same rule as some others
    Originally Posted by mrwtw Go to original post
    But he should be banned. Cheating is cheating. You are intended to get at most 5 keys per week. Legit players get 4 or 5 keys per week. People that choose to knowingly use this exploit get at least 4 keys per Raid and gear from the airplane box they didn't earn (as compared to their non-cheating counterparts).

    He just admitted he knew he already had keys for the week. He could have simply not opened the key boxes again.

    Why you speak so cruel...
    yeah I'm not trying to justify what I did and yes I did took keys even after I noticed we are using some kind of glitch.
    But come on...
    when they finally explained me this is actually a bug they also told me everyone who running raids these days using it too.
    (yeah I trusted their words. I mean I wanted to believe those words cuz the fruit was too sweet...I'm weak. and they were raid stars!)
    And later I watched some contents creators video (cuz I wanna be better raid player ) and found out it is true.
    Every single streamers I visited except one guys solidfps was doing the thing.

    I can give up those EBs I got from those runs since it's not legitimately earned...
    but please
    don't tell me I'm gonna get perma ban because of this

    Yeah.. I'm coward here I am trying to protect myself by using those famous leaderboaders and streamers as a shield before Massive finally decide to ban ppl because of this.

    They can't start another banwave right?
    I mean.. too many ppl...
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    Originally Posted by Moonaloria Go to original post
    -link deleted. - SevenNVD

    Could you send the link pm ?
    So weird that if i hear widz or who that guy is they start cover everything ..


    Oh, is it deleted? 0_o

    I guess it's not allowed to link such vid.

    I'm not sure it's okay to send you the link then.

    but if you wanna check what video was, it's easy to find.

    Just go his channel and check 9-Mar-2020 stream video. The team keep getting keys and they even makes some jokes about it if I recall right.

    But please don't be too harsh on them... like I said, almost all division streamer using this even on live.

    You might able to find more vids, other stramers... since all twitch recorded videos, it's all still there.
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    It's an exploit. You're purposely manipulating an in-game glitch to your advantage. How many times have you taken advantage of this cheat?
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    Fine by me :)

    Thank you .
    I am not harsh to anyone i am all about equity and giving constructive criticism that might help improve game and devs actions !
    So to speak If you repeatedly use gamebreaking bugs whether It's PVE/PVP (NOTE DPS/ARMOR/SHD/SCHOPE/KEYS/EXP E.T.C just name it).
    All of those by fact are bugs and breaks the game no matter what all say ,It wasn't supposed to work that way ,It's just by fact !
    Rules comply to everyone whether you are Youtuber ,passive player or admin !(Picking and choosing who ban who no isn't good action whatsoever )
    As far i see all their action are unfair to most of players !
    As i see their first ban wave is trial to check how many ppl will stay and leave cause if they ban everyone that used any sort of bug there would be like 10 -20 k players left to play! Probably will go like this which is i good or bad hard to tell 7 days first group then again 7 days second group and so on ,just to not lose huge amount of ppl base .
    Good cause it might give general idea what they will be dealing with and losses in % . Bad they might stop and leave banning and forgive most of players their actions (which would be very bad and unfair to those who suffered in middle all of this ,cause there is non i repeat not a single cheating ,exploiting coded system that will be 100% and ban only those who cheated .)As far on bug and mistakes we all see their track record on that so it's really hard to believe they make 100% clean thing .
    Suggestion
    1)Bold move would hard reset on everything events ,season etc
    2)Ban everyone that used any sort of exploit -7 days and roll back (But in meantime work their *** of on fixing major issues Starting of HIVE that hinders players progress in many H ,it will show that legacy bugs may be fixed and end with exploits and then move on slowly with NPC balance and all those minor things .)
    3)Lift 2 weeks roll back and reset everyones SHD ,ban no one ,reset leaderboards .(would be most simple thing they can do , would be fair to eveyone !)
    Every single thing has it's own consequences In long run ,but definitely all of this 3 are less impactfull in long run compared to what they do now
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    Originally Posted by FLR-001 Go to original post
    Why you speak so cruel...
    snip...
    People like water will always take the path of least resistance.
    The real fault lays with massive they could have dealt with all these problems (glitch/exploits/and so on) in a different way but hay i'm sure the fans of massive out there wont agree,anyways do what ever with your eb's man and enjoy your not banned while many other are
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