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  1. #11
    Originally Posted by scarp99anzz Go to original post
    They have known about this issue for months. If they can fix the dps glitch, infinite boss spawn glitch pretty fast then why wasn't this fixed?

    If they do then they will go about it the wrong way and just ban people with more than 4 raid keys in their stash because its an easy option, just like the rollback to one date, even though that person may have played the raid for a number of weeks but failed to beat Razorback and has been unable to open the chest so has lots of keys.
    Because everything that has to be fixed or implemented costs man-hours that have to be apportioned on the basis of most critical stuff first, and the underlying complexity of implementation varies greatly between issues?
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  2. #12
    Originally Posted by Kelso45 Go to original post
    Because everything that has to be fixed or implemented costs man-hours that have to be apportioned on the basis of most critical stuff first, and the underlying complexity of implementation varies greatly between issues?
    Yes but by the sounds of it its been around since discovery mode was launched and they have known about it. How long ago was that?

    I would think sorting this would be an higher priority than nerfing a gun and how many of those have we had since discovery mode
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  3. #13
    Originally Posted by scarp99anzz Go to original post
    They have known about this issue for months. If they can fix the dps glitch, infinite boss spawn glitch pretty fast then why wasn't this fixed?

    For months?
    didn't know this been existed that long wow.

    So Massive already know about this exploit? Then probably I don't need to worry about this too much.
    Maybe Massive decided not to punish ppl who using this cuz too many users doing this...
    All Division streamers I like to watch are using this except solid.

    And honestly part of me believes (want to believe at least ) Massive can't ban ppl because of this..
    cuz too many famous contents creators been doing this even on live streaming.
    I guess it's now part of the game. xD
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    I haven't fully exhibited Dark Hours, but isn't there a limit to how many keys you can get per week?
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  5. #15
    Originally Posted by FLR-001 Go to original post
    I understand this glitch's been there for a while but since everyone's talking about what exploit what's not exploit,

    I am confused about the definition of exploit which is appropriate for ban.


    According to @ChrisGansler,
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    So, using DMG glitch is definitely an exploit and ppl who got benefits from it should be banned.
    But, getting weirdly high amount of XP from Target Practice is hard to call as exploit cuz obviously it's not a bug and also it's actully part of the game.
    I can understand this.


    So my question is,

    Is using Infinite Raid Key Drop glitch can be consider as exploit?

    And yes, I'm asking this cuz honestly I've been taking benefits with this glitch for a month.
    I got 4 Eagle Bearers thanks to some random ppl who taught me how to do this on discord.gg/thedivisiongame LFG RAID channel.
    Am I gonna get perma ban because of this? (shamefully I already got 7 days ban because of DMG exploit)

    I'm so afraid cuz IT CAN'T BE SO HARD to find out who's been using this glitch.
    Massive can figure who got more than 5 keys per a week right?



    I'm not gonna write down here how this glitch can be done (actually I don't know how to do exactly since I never did it by myself. it was always raid leader who can do that magic and I'm no raid leader ever) but since I want some answer from UBISOFT/MASSIVE, I'll attach a link so they can see what it look like.
    -link deleted. - SevenNVD
    Sorry, I didn't recorded my own game so I took a link from a streamer. I can see it's same glitch at least.
    As you can see, they already took a key from the exactly same box just like 40 min before (00h50m16s).
    With this glitch, ppl can get Raid Keys every single time. Over and over again.



    I want some answers from Massive.
    AM I GONNA GET BANNED with that streamer?
    Not one person has been banned for it. Streamers are doing it constantly. Not like that means much since streamers are protected from being banned.
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  6. #16
    Think about it you just get a an extra chest at the end with 4 items and a tiny chance for an eagle bearer.You have to play the raid regulary with no unfair advantage like a dps glitch.
    When they ban people for this then they lose most of the playerbase who actually play raids and it is quite impossible to find a single raid group on discord who dont do this.
    They should just change it to that you can get every run new fresh keys without doing some wonky stuff.
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    Originally Posted by Merphee Go to original post
    I haven't fully exhibited Dark Hours, but isn't there a limit to how many keys you can get per week?
    Not with this exploit there ain't.

    Keys are unlimited.
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  8. #18
    Originally Posted by HenryRoweng Go to original post
    If you are a content creator or top gamer you’re safe. Otherwise you’ll just have to throw your name into a hat. Assuming they devs consider this exploit cheating.
    This is the correct answer unfortunately.

    Nobody knows what's warrants a sanction and what doesn't anymore.

    To be safe, simply don't do it. That's my advise.
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    Originally Posted by Merphee Go to original post
    I haven't fully exhibited Dark Hours, but isn't there a limit to how many keys you can get per week?
    It's an exploit exactly because it bypass that
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    Speed teams routinely kill themselves on the beach for special ammo (grenade launchers for war dogs), and then switch to Discovery mode and back to reset the timer....... and the keys just happen to reset as well.

    Obviously speed runners aren't stopping for keys, but this method has long become the norm.

    If Massive doesn't want it to happen, (1) fix the problem.......or (2) just leave it as it has been for many months, and blame their customers.

    I'm thinking they'll pick option 2.
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