Couldn't say it better, I said this like million times, but I guess it falls over dead ears.Originally Posted by Rulistic Go to original post
In div 1 when I saw a cheater I never thought to myself I wanna cheat like that also or they cheat why not me or its only fair I do it if others are doing it, seems in a lot of these threads there is a lot of that going on, if a youtuber was a cheater thats on them, if your a cheater thats on you, as I dont understand being a cheater I also dont understand a cheater feeling cheated if every cheater isnt caught and punished like them.
I am sure there is a medical condition that explains this kind of rational.
The trouble is they can do that on a whim at anytime they please, and they do not have to notify anyone of the changes, WE have to look ourselves. it's in the Eula Black and white, and that's for most online service games whether EA/Bungie et-alOriginally Posted by Teigan. Go to original post
The trouble is no one reads the damn thing, so they haven't a clue what's going on.(yet everyone agrees to this as soon as you install the game/Product. It's Automatic)
Here are the important sections.
1.3 While using the Product, You agree to comply will all applicable laws, rules and regulations. You also agree to comply with certain rules of conduct that govern Your use of the Product (“Rules of Conduct”), which are not meant to be exhaustive and can be modified at any time by UBISOFT. In all cases, You may only use the Product according to anticipated use of the Product.
This EULA for security, legal, best practice or regulatory reasons. Such changes will be effective with or, as applicable, without prior notice to You. You can review the most current version of this EULA by clicking on the “EULA” link located on the Product or on ubi.com. You are responsible for checking this EULA periodically for changes. If any future changes to this EULA are unacceptable to You or cause You to no longer be in agreement or compliance with this EULA, You may terminate this EULA in accordance with Section 8 and must immediately uninstall the Product and destroy all copies of the Product.
Well, the big glaring assumption here is that it is finished.Originally Posted by GeneralPDA Go to original post
So many threads about "I was banned but so and so wasn't". Therefore it is not fair, not consistent application of the rules, etc.
fair pointOriginally Posted by Teigan. Go to original post
will be fun see next ubisoft title flopping hard at launch, division 2 and breakpoint are huge hits on total failure launchs, but with this type of behavior no wonder why ubi isnt releasing games and had money problems
its fair assume that people who also dont liked how division1 was handled but tried give a second chance to division2 wont return to future tom clancy releases from ubi
I guess you meant any Ubisoft title.Originally Posted by GeneralPDA Go to original post
so....after more 2 weeks those guys will also have accounts rolled back to march 17?Originally Posted by tcarlisle2012 Go to original post
you need understand one thing: this is a software with database, if ubi its capable to find discrepancies about something, should be capable of find about another punishment to just ONE type of glitchers means that still anarchy/chaos heres and not all problems of exploiting same thing have the same treatment, whats its absurd.
change TOS to validate rollbacks after fix isnt ethical to when used on actions performed before that change, this is law 1.0.1
if developers arent fair and act following the same rule for ALL, why exactly we still playing and giving money to them??
getting infinite items/exotics on raid its different from getting infinite items using dps glitch on legendaries? raid keys exploit seems exist since last year but probably no one cares because no one does raid.
i assure that no much people want enter in DZ to be one shotted by grenade launcher and this bug also still working on game....theres explanation to this be "allowed" ?
Originally Posted by tcarlisle2012 Go to original post
I'll agree that the bans and roll backs are fine. But to try and make Massive the victim by saying those that used the glitch are causing them more when all of this is going on, no. Massive released the update with the bugs. They always release updates with bugs. I'm starting to think that it's just their way of releasing content. If it's not buggy, it's not Massive. They are doing more work on it because of themselves. Sure, people didn't have to use the glitch and they shouldnt have, but Massive could have been more thorough in the release. That is on them and that is what caused them more work. They aren't the victim in this, they are the enabler. People tend to follow the path of least resistance, the glitch, for a lot, was a cheese way to get loot they otherwise wouldn't have gotten. So some of them are selectively being punished for it, me included. I'll take my ban and my roll back for testing it out. I tested for hours, I've admitted it numerous times.
I, for one, am glad they are finally taking some kind of action for crap like this. But again, they are at fault as well. They have a track record of releasing things without good testing, and then asking us, by way of video, to show them the bugs so they can address them. They really need to take a look at their QA team. And yes I have experience working for software development companies, so I;m not just talking out my @#$. They have processes in place, or they should, that should catch things like this. It seems their process is broken, and again, it's on them. They need to fix it.