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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by NaughtyElf. Go to original post

    This lmao
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  2. #22
    thats not a fair comparison jack the 50000 players used outside cheats and mods
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  3. #23
    why would you get a refund is there somewhere in the clause that says cheating gets you a refund you guys are giving all of us dmg glitch users a bad rep take this **** like a man
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  4. #24
    Originally Posted by EK1GamingTV Go to original post
    So some of you may of seen/heard that yes I did share the "how to" on the glitches.
    First, I don't know who you are (apart from what you just said), and based on that info, I have zero interest in finding out more. That said, I have no interest in bashing you either, nor any other streamer or anyone else for that matter. But let me describe how your post comes across for someone who considers himself of not being associated with any camp in this conflict.

    You start with two apologetic statements that look very much like lip service in the context of the rest of your post. Then you go straight into a fairly long list of what Massive has done wrong in your opinion.

    Now, did Massive do a perfect job with this? It's hard to tell since most people have a vested interest to present it one way or the other, and there is very little data around that is objectively verifiable, but chances are that they didn't. I have no reason to doubt, however, that they did the best that they could, with limited tools due to the current global situation, to contain a further deteriorating situation that _you_ helped to create.

    And really, for me as a relatively neutral person in this fight - that you have to _gall_ to come here and point fingers at Ubisoft for not perfectly addressing a problem that you helped creating, tells me more about you than I ever need to know. Personally, I find this behavior disgusting. Even if some of your points might be correct - which I have no way of knowing since the only proof you present here is stating that "there is proof" -, you should (imo) have had the decency to realize that you are one of last people to point fingers at the guys who had to repair the mess that your irresponsible actions spread and magnified.

    You might be a decent guy or even a great streamer, I wouldn't know. But I can only shake my head at your post here.
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    The can patch the xp And dps glitch in speed time.
    But wat the cant oor will not do If fix the game for us.
    In the raid cant pick ip my mate need to drop my hive.
    Multi times in the raids we run.
    Open world missions to mate goos down cant pick him up most drop my hive so hé can go on.
    Fix that first.
    Fix the server problems.
    Fix the facetanking npc a red one that kills 3 players with high dps gear set And weapons.
    Npc walk away Still like New.
    Npc stuck in walls during missions can kill them mission needs to be resset And do it all again.
    Like wtf is it so hard to lissen to us wat we need in the game.
    But no the speed patch the dps glitch.
    We all payd good money for the game And the dlc went it can out.
    Now dlc mostly for free huh wat how so And why the **** let us pay top dollars 💵.
    Day one players and the community ar getting *** kick by the game Devs And the dont care.
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    I'm pretty sure they got records on accounts which did what and from when (timelines etc.) This roll-back is the best thing they could have done to balance the game, All these bug abusers just made the game be trash, made players leave cause of this massive advantage, and again, just stop your drama train and deal with the consequence to your misleading and behavior towards the game.
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  8. #28
    Since you felt the need to cross post. let me cross post my previous reply here to:

    Originally Posted by EK1GamingTV Go to original post
    No let me start by clearing something up - I Accept my ban completely.
    Seems like a lot of text to follow that then.

    What my issue is, they stated on the SOTG today they are 100% on the people who done it and they have been sanctioned.
    Now this is where it gets fun - A number of people actually tagged massive/division in a post saying hey, I done this glitch and I am not banned.One Content creator even done a video on it. (this 100% accuracy is clearly not working)

    Now lets get onto the fact some people did not do the glitch and got banned - One example being someone who had been inactive for the last 2 months (showed proof) and he came back to a ban? - when he went to ubi support he was told all bans are non retractable (Hamish said on SOTG they would look into them? So another lie)
    Would you mind supplying this socalled proof? People lie so much on the internet it's damn near a culture by now, so why should anyone in anyway believe you?

    Shall we address the roll back now - So a roll back to 17th March will be done which I totally disagree with. Reason being the first "glitch" was not recorded until 19th March - fixed on 20th March. So what about those 2 days of grind? Also after that there were no roll out of emails as warnings, they simply posted it here where not many people would see it. But hey thats massive for you.
    You're not entitled to a warning, please actually read the COC and stop agreeing to COCs you obviously don't agree with in the first place.

    • Exploiting: Triggering and using a bug or glitch or bypassing established game rules to gain a significant advantage or skip progression steps otherwise necessary.
    • First offense: temporary suspension
    • Multiple offenses: permanent ban

    Source: https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...ode-of-Conduct

    Another thing - When looking into the whole exploit situation they stated its a bug in which you willingly and knowingly exploit to gain unfair advantage. So lets go to this target practice XP "thing" - Massive said previously that it is giving out too much XP and they would patch it. Knowing this, people used it to gain over 1000 SHD in a few days. In turn surely this should be deemed exploiting a bug. Failing of course is exploiting. The watch SHD level does give unfair advantage by offering the extra levels of attributes it does.
    • Actual disciplinary action may differ from the list of examples depending on the severity of the behavior and shall be decided at Ubisoft’s discretion, on a case by case basis


    Source: https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...ode-of-Conduct

    Do I agree with the stance they took on this issue well not entirely, I did however agree to that it is entirely their decision.

    Now lets talk about the email for the ban - My email states that I will receive a 7 day ban, nowhere does it state I would get a roll back as a punishment, so I believe they are not actually within their TOS on doing this. Reading the TOS / Code of Conduct it does not state that they can roll back your gear/XP - it simply says bans, suspensions.
    No it does not.

    • Extent of an account rollback will be decided at Ubisoft’s discretion, on a case by case basis
    • Duration of a suspension will be decided at Ubisoft’s discretion, on a case by case basis
    • Actual disciplinary action may differ from the list of examples depending on the severity of the behavior and shall be decided at Ubisoft’s discretion, on a case by case basis
    • Repeat violations may lead to stricter consequences.


    Source: https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...ode-of-Conduct

    It begs to say is the roll back to give certain members of the elites a better chance of being #1 raid group again?
    Tinfoil hats?

    the only issue I have is that they did not do the bans fairly, equally or even remotley respectfully.
    Why would they be respectful towards someone deliberately trying to sabotage their game and showing them no respect? Also you did get an e-mail what more respect did you have in mind, a personal visit from Hamish?

    If they wanted to do something - I would of rather they gave me a perma ban for sharing the content and gave the community a warning - instead they went "Rogue" and mass banned everyone with some not even getting an explanation.
    As we all know they sent out e-mails, it seems unlikely that some didn't get an explanation and again you wheren't entitled to a warning.
    Neither did they mass ban everyone, only the people that exploited and already knew in advance that this might lead to account sanctions such as both bans, rollbacks etc as it says clearly in the COC as previously shown.
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    Originally Posted by EK1GamingTV Go to original post
    Craig - this was in fact added after we all agreed to the code of conduct - with no notice.

    I appreciate your time in answering, but I feel its very underhand.

    Similar to the "Patch" on the Target range was stupidly forgotten on the patch notes until someone flagged it up, then ohhh it appeared.
    I have zero interest in entering into any sort of conversation with a lowlife such as yourself. You have systematically posted new ways of doing exploits as soon as the devs who are working from home with limited resources at their disposal have tried to fix it. All you're interested in is subs and likes to line your own pockets and have no interest in the well being of the game or anyone who plays it.

    Not sure what you're hoping to achieve on here but I suggest you go and creep back under a rock where you undoubtedly belong. You have no integrity or credibility whatsoever, get lost.
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    Originally Posted by kane6640 Go to original post
    thats not a fair comparison jack the 50000 players used outside cheats and mods
    irrespective of comparisons cheating is cheating, (Ubi could have given out Perma bans if they had wished, they chose suspension for 2 weeks and a roll back , so yeah people got off lightly.

    Now if they do start giving out perma's and it's within their rights (imagine the meltdown then)
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