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    Low weapon rolls and purple guns from lvl4 control point for manhunt

    Played some manhunt yesterday. I was on challenging world tier difficulty the day before. I switched to heroic yesterday. I was in the pistol reward area. My rewards from the control point were all garbage. I got a purple from the big yellow box. The guns that came out of it were all either quarter to half rolls and I also got several that were less than 5% rolls from the elites I killed. I thought heroic was supposed to provide if not the best loot then at least close to it cause legendary is the only difficulty left. It is very disappointing to get almost a zero percent roll after the amount of effort it took to defeat all the elites that were attacking. Did 3 control points and I did not get one weapon or gear worth keeping. I am not condoning cheating but, I can see why some people did. The rewards versus the effort and difficulty of the content are not aligned. I was playing heroic missions. Farming for providence gear. Same thing. I was farming for the orbit. Same thing. Got not one piece that improved my build. I did finally get a Sweet Dreams but, the rolls are not good. Really??? An exotic on heroic content but, with terrible rolls. That's not right. Exotics are supposed to be the o.p. weapons for shd agents. (Is this blueprint supposed to be available for purchase once I acquire it at level 40? If so it is not available at the crafting bench for purchase.) These should have a max roll always. Their drop rate is too low to be given 10 or 25% rolls. I have to admit the system seems broken. I for one would not cheat but, the system in place needs rework. It is the reason so many cheated. It was easier to cheat than to farm for hours, finally see or hear an exotic drop, and it is a piece of a holster you have already and can't add this piece to your inventory, or get an exotic with 10% rolls.

    Please evaluate this. A large portion of the community feels this way Massive. Are they all wrong? Maybe but, please reconsider your position on this.

    I do have a screenshot and video of my purple item from the control point rewards.

    Can't there be some lines of codes that checks the shd agents last 10 activities. If they were completed on say heroic then the world boxes are upgraded to award heroic level items. If you complete two consecutive lower difficulty activities then your boxes are lowered to that difficulty. Just a thought but, something like that. The grind feels like a chore if at least one food item isn't awarded after a full day of farming... Just saying. And not saying that one item has to be an exotic.
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    fixthedivision's Avatar Banned
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    I feel your pain brah... i feel it.
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    Hello,

    Can you please share the screenshots of your gear obtained from the big yellow box? Or a video while opening that specific box? You shouldn't receive purple items from the big yellow containers at that difficulty (Challenging or Heroic).

    On the other hand, containers in the open world and in mission can drop purple loot quality, as the containers do not check the difficulty and are also more of a bonus. While we can look to make changes in the future for this, we don't want it to be the best way to farm loot by identifying which missions have the most containers.
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    At least for CPs it should be easy to identify at what level they've been cleared and the amount of containers in each one.

    Loot at the moment is rather poor, and it's especially hinderend by the current overflow of mods dropping.

    Gear 2.0 did in no way alleviate the need for a large number of rolls to get what we need, the number of drops has been reduced but not the number of possible combinations of affixes each piece can get.
    Given how much value each affix bears at the moment, playing with an unmatched one is pretty much a drawback.

    The droprate cannot be based upon those who play the most, but on an average.
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    Its always the same actually. - ive noticed a trend!.. ahha!..

    Cp4 - the big chest always gives gold items. - the smaller chest & weapon crate give purple, unless its a shotgun (as it always always is for me) then it will give gold.

    we did 3 yesterday all were the same.

    We tried it on challenging too, - just the same accept you get a purple shotgun

    I will do it today again, and take screenshots along the way and will forward it along to the right people!
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    Originally Posted by xy44 Go to original post
    Cp4 - the big chest always gives gold items. - the smaller chest & weapon crate give purple, unless its a shotgun (as it always always is for me) then it will give gold.
    That is correct, it's how the game works, even though I don't agree with that philosophy.
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    Originally Posted by desrocchi Go to original post
    That is correct, it's how the game works, even though I don't agree with that philosophy.
    yeah but thats not a normal "world chest" found in the open as its behind a locked door still. - surely that still qualifies as a reward.. right?

    Im totally fine with random world chests offering purple as i ignore those anyway. - but CP4 reward should include that room...no?
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    Originally Posted by Ubi-Alien Go to original post
    Hello,

    Can you please share the screenshots of your gear obtained from the big yellow box? Or a video while opening that specific box? You shouldn't receive purple items from the big yellow containers at that difficulty (Challenging or Heroic).

    On the other hand, containers in the open world and in mission can drop purple loot quality, as the containers do not check the difficulty and are also more of a bonus. While we can look to make changes in the future for this, we don't want it to be the best way to farm loot by identifying which missions have the most containers.
    Add a standard of 10 containers for each mission (as per the commendation you get) & only add faction specific containers to strongholds (3 might suffice).
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    Not exactly, the reason for this is that those containers will be there even if you already cleared the CP, which means you'll be able to open them even though you have not fought NPCs.

    The same goes for containers that are deep in missions, they will always roll as if you randomly found them in the streets.
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    gear mods dropping on heroic... please... fix it.
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