May we discuss some buffs for goki or even make a re work for him | Forums

[KevalOfHades]

I dont understand why he has been kept fairly weak ,I understand cent is a bigger priority but why on earth has heros like warden for some reason got a huge buff but completely leave out goki and and highlander who still hasnt even been normalized with 500 ms lights.

They gave clearly shown that they can give fast updates as shown with the last tg update where they adjusted the damge values.

So me go over what makes my fav hero weak.... And what i might suggest to bring him up to date

His headbut is 600 ms with low stam damage and confirms nothing and barely stuns ...why?

Make the headbutt accessible from neutral(back step gb input)and chained that can allways lead to a finisher and the headbutt itselt deal 5 dmg and provide it with a much heavier hit reaction to prevent unlock rolls and maybe speed up to 500-566ms?

Perhaps reduce stam dmg to make this a reasonable buff


His neutral charged heavies are far too slow and give even oos opponents too much time to walk back and out of gb.

Either give shugo his old super armour property during orange portion to still make it somewhat of a threat to bashers or speed up by 100 ms per

Can we just shorten his long recoveries during his openers and finishers? I hate fighting gb happy opponents who think "it free real estate"

Can we do something about his oni charge? Maybe return oos knock down? or Have it stun on hit(that would be hilarious too)

Have a partial charged neutral heavy do abit more damage? So 38/35 dmg

And lastly being able to do a neutral heavy on gb and have demon ball be a charged option(for successful gb only)

I know almost none of this would be implemented but i can still dream right?

[chaneke1984]

I can understand why you think this would be fair if you play only duels. Goki is a hard opponent in 4v4.
Maybe some of this could be implemented, but he has to lose his HA on lights, his trade ability is just too risk free for him.

[Col.Bullet]

Interesting suggestions.
I would not like him to lose HA on lights however. They give him both a reliable way to trade and initiate his offence aswell.
To me the most irritating part of his kit by far is the headbutt. It seemingly only serves to annoy the Opponent or set up a gb for him. It does not confirm a light only allowing to chain a heavy. Very weird.

[garr1999]

dude goki has 500ms lights highlanders the only hero still stuck on 600 ms (I think)
on the other end goki already got his rework back in the year of the harbinger (season 1 or 2)
highlander is still in need of a rework but centurion is high priority.

goki's lights have HA they are the safest lights in the game unless you parry 100% for the whole match
does he rly need a re:rework more than cent or HL.

I can agree that shugoki does need some buffs however we don't need another bash spammy hero for braindead experienced players to abuse
bp, conq, etc it's plagued the game for a long time that needs to be changed bp "was" a solution but he's also an example
of why players just shouldn't have access to bashes it's too easily abusable and it just doesn't make the experience any better.

all heavies are slow his are chargable which also means they have variable times it also allows for more mixup potential
shugoki a very viable mid-tier character your just not using his mixups the right way the objective is try to make
your opponent think that is how win solo fights ganking just let your heavies fly or go for DE antiganking
just charge the heavy and switch targets there is a reason his heavies can hit multiple people but try it
when you get revenge.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

The only things he needs is a bit less recovery on miss, and a forward dodge heavy to chase down. His lights are more than okay.

[Frozty85]

Rework??
He had a rework last summer........ jeeze, rework the fighters that have NOT recived any real attension since 2018.......

[KevalOfHades]

Im Asking for small tweaks to make him less punishable and not an outright revamp, I totally understand other's need the attention far more ofcourse

[Goat_of_Vermund]

Im Asking for small tweaks to make him less punishable and not an outright revamp, I totally understand other's need the attention far more ofcourse

He really has insane weaknesses. He has nothing against bashes, and it is ridicoulous how you can backwalk his offense. That being said, his ha lights are extremely irritating to deal with if you don't have a bash. If he gets something serious, that ha should go in return.