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  1. #1

    Not possible anymore? Raid

    Not only this update screwed up at least 10 times more than a similar update in Division 1 back in it's days, but i see that even a single lvl 40 player joins the raid, the enemies scale with that. Not only this, but also the insane damage they deliver to you...also, Razorback drones, you have to fight those too. Did anyone managed to finish the raid after this update?

    Let's look at the bigger picture, only few ppl are "positive" and applaud this clusterfuck from the update, but from what i've seen on forum, and in game, most ppl are enraged.
    Ok...Ubisoft is well known to mess like everything around in the past years (starting from Watch Dogs, that was their premiere)...from not delivering everything from trailer, to downgrading, and then.....this kind of updates, so we can say it's not a surprise they screwed up an almost 1 year work of most of the players. I mean, let's be honest, in Division 1, they utterly failed to deal with cheaters in the at least first 7-8 months after release, reason why the playerbase there went drastically down.

    Sure...they wanted to give a challenge here, with this messy update, but if ppl wanted a challenge, they should go do heroic, solo, not requesting...or dunno how Ubisoft came up with this idea with Gear 2.0, and then everything to be nerfed, not only that, but enemies to be buffed alot.

    It's like they are "forcing" us to buy the expansion in order to get only to do bigger damage, because from what others told me, having over 700k armor for example is nothing, you will die easy just like a player with 200k armor.

    In Division 1, if i'm not mistaking, you could reroll 2 attributes and 1 talent per item, now in Division 2 they couldn't help us with this....oh no, they kept only 1 reroll only per item.

    Ppl saying that they got like everything, god roll items and such, but i bet not even 25% of the playerbase had an entirely "god" set and weapons. So Ubisoft decided to fk things up for a minority? From when in the tarnation a minority is above the majority and you decide to screw up the majority because a small group of no-lifers ppl wanted more challenge? Give them harder heroic, give then legendary missions, let them do that, but don't affect an entire game because....well, in the staff are alot of people who got absolutely no idea the game was challenging enough even before this update.
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    Has anyone completed the level 40 raid yet ?
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    Originally Posted by tracertong666 Go to original post
    Has anyone completed the level 40 raid yet ?
    our clan has gotten till razorback but keep wipping at 50% due to the drone spam + add wave + chungas, we dont have enough time to dps all of this while doing the boss, EMP doesn't 1 shot the drones neither it just stuns them and deals 70% HP damage,
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    Take a look at the incursions from Division 1, even on heroic is easier than a mission on challenging here, and there you got shooting drones, stunning drones, bombs, flankers and such. Even after they changed the gear there too. But here....you stay around 1 hour to finish a mission on challenging? And even that isn't rewardy enough. As of now, it's a pay 2 win situation, it's like i told, for a damage boost you are forced to buy the expansion, and even that is not enough to survive more.
    I mean lol...not to say about the standard apparel cache...it's not even 100% drop rate chance when you level up? It's their idea of a joke? They could had fixed this....but no, they prefered to nerf like...everything.
    The update needs ASAP a massive balance. I think a week of complains and reviews are enough for them to "forge" a patch to fix things. Minority should have NO word upon this, the majority matters, and the majority, if you do a poll, you will see the majority will demand to fix things up with this circus of an update.
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    Originally Posted by RavennesVR Go to original post
    our clan has gotten till razorback but keep wipping at 50% due to the drone spam + add wave + chungas, we dont have enough time to dps all of this while doing the boss, EMP doesn't 1 shot the drones neither it just stuns them and deals 70% HP damage,
    2 guys running emp grenades and emp pulse gg drones spawn and die literally takes 2 guys to control drone waves
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    Originally Posted by Sirius_Tenzo Go to original post
    Take a look at the incursions from Division 1, even on heroic is easier than a mission on challenging here, and there you got shooting drones, stunning drones, bombs, flankers and such. Even after they changed the gear there too. But here....you stay around 1 hour to finish a mission on challenging? And even that isn't rewardy enough. As of now, it's a pay 2 win situation, it's like i told, for a damage boost you are forced to buy the expansion, and even that is not enough to survive more.
    I mean lol...not to say about the standard apparel cache...it's not even 100% drop rate chance when you level up? It's their idea of a joke? They could had fixed this....but no, they prefered to nerf like...everything.
    The update needs ASAP a massive balance. I think a week of complains and reviews are enough for them to "forge" a patch to fix things. Minority should have NO word upon this, the majority matters, and the majority, if you do a poll, you will see the majority will demand to fix things up with this circus of an update.
    Less than 1 week and you already have a godroll build to compare heroic(legendary) of division1 with challenging here, right?

    Probably im playing game wrong because i cleared one heroic control point solo in NY using a full yellow build(the unique red thing on my build was one lesser red with weapon handling) and with 3 friends you cleared another one easy.

    You probably dont know but you can treat raid like heroic content for difficulty concerns, raid never was casual content to any build clear, even the godroll builds (svd aces/ cluster stinger etc) had problems doing.
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    We have over 200 raid clears in tu7. We made it to razorback but couldnt pass that. Previously add clear 3 and 4 had no trouble aggro drones. But it takes a full clip to kill a drone now. And grenade launcher as it opens doesnt work. Specialization ammo has been nerfed to the ground. Not to mention elite adds that spawn can blind fire you from cover a mile away and still manage to land 1 bullet that kills you instantly.

    The raid is doable. But only if everyone on your team is running lmg builds with all reds. At least with tu7 we had guy(s) running aces, tip, demos, Hs builds, crit build for razor. Build diversity and team mechanic to beat the raid. Now it's just stack as much damage as possible and play the revive game till you finally kill everything with lmgs. Not even fun anymore.
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    This is what you understood from what i told, that i "have godroll build"? Read again, you might understand what i am trying to say, besides trying to explain how pathetic are ppl for kissing the devs straight in the *** for a messed up update.
    Raid was already challenging in TU7, no need to make it almost impossible, and now even with scaling if a lvl 40 is in the party. So how is that fair if most ppl are lvl 30? Pay 2 win situation, forcing to buy the expansion just to get a little damage boost with the weapons there.
    And how much time did it took to complete a heroic control point? Compare it to DC if it's no problem, then compare to a heroic or challenging missions, let's see if you can complete it in less than 30 mins, and let's see how rewardy is that after the massive bulletsponge ******** in this update.
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    Originally Posted by Sirius_Tenzo Go to original post
    Take a look at the incursions from Division 1, even on heroic is easier than a mission on challenging here, and there you got shooting drones, stunning drones, bombs, flankers and such. Even after they changed the gear there too. But here....you stay around 1 hour to finish a mission on challenging? And even that isn't rewardy enough. As of now, it's a pay 2 win situation, it's like i told, for a damage boost you are forced to buy the expansion, and even that is not enough to survive more.
    I mean lol...not to say about the standard apparel cache...it's not even 100% drop rate chance when you level up? It's their idea of a joke? They could had fixed this....but no, they prefered to nerf like...everything.
    The update needs ASAP a massive balance. I think a week of complains and reviews are enough for them to "forge" a patch to fix things. Minority should have NO word upon this, the majority matters, and the majority, if you do a poll, you will see the majority will demand to fix things up with this circus of an update.
    You need learn to not use low effort words etc

    You also need learn that this game has 6 gearpieces with 3 mod slots and 3 weapons to equip, isnt secret to anyone that you need a good combinations of above mentioned items to do challenging/raid stuff.

    If you is trying do raid with any "whatever i dropped" , the problem here its you.

    If cplvl4 is soloable, if challenging and heroic can be done in less than 10min(theres a screen of this on reddit), the only problem here clearly its you.

    Other thing to note: legendary isnt for you and probably heroic also isnt for you.

    When you start to beat enemies at least on challenging without use healskills you can continue this conversation.

    Normal progression is: normal...gear up...hard...gear up....challenge...gear up...heroic...gear up....im on 3% list? If yes...legendary

    Im not saying this on sole purpose of highlight your lack of skills and manners but just accept...you zuck and dont even tried understand that you need build to clear endgame content.
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    Sure...i "zuck", that's your whole conclusion when you lack capability to understand some things.

    You know, no matter how messy that specific update was in Division 1, i still managed to do heroic and legendary, because not only Ubisoft didn't completely screwed there, but they also gaved us the chance to reroll 2 stats and 1 talent. Here on the other hand, they screwed up everything and made the enemies be even more bulletsponge than before.

    Also, i will gladly wait for that screenshot of ppl doing challenging in less than 10 minutes, after this update, without having lvl 40 and a weapon from expansion. Because that's one of the things i am talking about here, the pay 2 win situation in order to do what?...to have some damage boost? So i wait for that screenshot.

    Also, in how much time is CP4 soloable? Like it wasn't challenging before, now they tried to do what?

    As for that part with doing challenging without healskills...don't you worry, after i've seen how Ubisoft ruined those too, i gaved up to those. And still manage to do challenging after a horrific bulletsponge experience.

    The only lack of skills for me is the lack of using my lips to applaud Ubisoft for a masterpiece in the art of ruining almost everything and making the game pay 2 win.
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