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  1. #1

    A Massive let down!

    Seems to be one step forward two steps back, there's always something when we have an update. It's great there are new things to do but now a lethal AI that will put you down no matter how you play or what difficulty you play on, tanky with good armour and it doesn't seem to bother the AI, play cautiously and pop up out of cover BAM your dead by one grenade or a flamethrower or sniper. Loads of complaints on the forums and Reddit Just not fun anymore! Been playing since D1 Alpha on Xbox.
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    Originally Posted by j0hnnySolo Go to original post
    Seems to be one step forward two steps back, there's always something when we have an update. It's great there are new things to do but now a lethal AI that will put you down no matter how you play or what difficulty you play on, tanky with good armour and it doesn't seem to bother the AI, play cautiously and pop up out of cover BAM your dead by one grenade or a flamethrower or sniper. Loads of complaints on the forums and Reddit Just not fun anymore! Been playing since D1 Alpha on Xbox.
    You will soon be braced with the Git gud or your build is not optimized or farm better gear comment soon. Brace yourself. I'm not one of them
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    Originally Posted by Asfblast Go to original post
    You will soon be braced with the Git gud or your build is not optimized or farm better gear comment soon. Brace yourself. I'm not one of them
    I know right!!, I've been playing this game a few years now and I've hardened up to the trolls in chat now but still have the scars lol
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    Originally Posted by Asfblast Go to original post
    You will soon be braced with the Git gud or your build is not optimized or farm better gear comment soon. Brace yourself. I'm not one of them
    The funny thing is that is exactly what he needs to do, there are ways to counter everything he is having problems with, it really is a learn to play issue.
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    RSebire's Avatar Banned
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    and whats your point?

    if you want a game that holds your hand all the time go and play something else
    i personally enjoy the challenge

    As for what people say on the forums...
    consider yourself lucky.
    youd only be complaining yet again if nobody said anything
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    Originally Posted by Asfblast Go to original post
    You will soon be braced with the Git gud or your build is not optimized or farm better gear comment soon. Brace yourself. I'm not one of them
    if you play challenging and upscale a CP to heroic... they're piss easy... you play Heroic difficulty and engage a cp4 you get absolutely trashed... it is very odd how the scaling works
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    Originally Posted by RSebire Go to original post
    if you want a game that holds your hand all the time go and play something else
    Said as if this game was not something completely different just a week ago...

    And we are playing other games, we're voicing our disappointment in how the game has been changed.
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    I never like to be part of the "git gud" patrol, but... I hadn't played this game since shortly after the raid came out months ago, and I was back to running 4-player missions with randoms on Challenging difficulty within two days. And that was despite also having to start over with my gear, because of the level increase.

    And to be clear, I'm not some amazing MLG Pro. I mostly avoid the DZ, specifically because I'm NOT.

    So if I can do that, I think you can manage to get through some missions on Story difficulty, yeah?
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    We also can do everything, it just takes too long.

    45 to 50 minutes to complete a challenging mission is not good, especially because in those 45 minutes all you're doing is running away from enemies that straight up walk up to you and ignore your bullets.

    Weak points take 2 whole magazines to blow up, and when they do they tickle the NPC, but if you're caught in their blast you're 1 Hit KO.

    It's boring because we're completely out of control of the battlefield, now the battlefield controls us.

    The only mission I did last night there was a medic enemy boss that walked the whole arena ressing up his companions while we were all dumping bullets in his head, he simply finished ressing one guy and went to the next, with 60% of his armour still intact.

    We managed to get to his lifebar but he sat there while we were shooting him and just healed himself to full armour and went to ress other guys...

    This is not hard or challenging, this is frustrating.
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    I can’t say I’ve encountered any of what the op described after figuring out what was needed in my build in relation to what I was doing with it...

    But a few things I’ve learned by playing around with builds

    If your solo spec it healing , a little into armor and 0 weapon damage ! Why ... 0 weapon damage ? It’s not the most efficient way to gain damage ... You simply just don’t need it ! I have built into healing mainly and a little armor too .. so no red must takes ages to kill ai ? Nope I drop things pretty fast all the way up to challenge ... heroric takes just a little more time maybe 2-3 seconds more so where am o getting my damage ? Crit chance it’s extremely easy to get the cap % chc on gun roll and all attachments chc after this I actually only needed to 2 chc attributes on my gear to hit cap with smg ... with AR you need 3 chc attributes ...

    The only time I would use weapon damage core attributes is if I have a dedicated healer with me anything else it’s just not worth it unless your a full on sniper build and sitting way in the back

    Armor .... you don’t really need as much as you think I run only 970k reason .. how am I staying alive ? Simple answer I’m playing correctly to how the game is designed not how many have played over the years just lazer or seeker builds ...combat survivability Is total armor + hots = combat sustain you need a balance between the two. If your in combat while taking&dealing damage and your armor bar isn’t going up and down constantly then your simply not playing correctly and that will make life on this game hell

    If your in a group If friends/clan you should have a healer to control your combat sustain for you so you can spec into dmg more

    If your playing in pick up groups you need to sustain your self and you need to theory craft this into your build simply because 90% of players you will meet ain’t gotta a clue on how to play / there won’t be a dedi healer or tank it will just be 4 so called dps or players needing a carry

    Solo haha you have to be healer tank and dps in one .... you need the self sustain you need the dmg(refer to start) you don’t need to be tanky as f tho ! All you need is smart position and movement of ai awareness knowing when you need to go and when you need to hold and priorities of specific ai that need to go down first this is pretty much known as kiting/kite it’s a solo or duo strongest tactic don’t underestimate its importance ! There’s so much more to the game and combat system I could say but this will get you thinking building and playing in the right direction and you will sooon see this games not as hard as it seems when played correctly!!

    For years since div 1 even get players like myself have gotten to comfortable and used to the cookie cutting and seeker builds that let us ignore all of the games mechanics now that they are pretty much gone to a extent we need to learn how to play properly again and that takes time and practice ...

    this is the main reason why people are having such a hard time and coming Here to complain so much ...if it’s just moaning you don’t like how bullet sponge the ai is sadly this is how it’s meant to be your playing a stat based mmo with a role based combat system ...2dps /healer/tank(cc & support) makes a team.... time to L2P properly
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