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  1. #1

    Bullet Sponge Anti-Fun

    Hey guys,

    have difficulties to understandi where the fun in this game ended up.
    I'm at SHD lvl 14, armor at 1.5 Mill, health at 350k, map difficulty at 'heavy' (don't concentrate on that, it's one level above 'normal').
    When i try to infiltrate an enemy checkpoint, i experience the following:
    - the battle lasts about 40 min untill i can defeat the first boss.
    - boss takes 50 headshots with sniper rifle at 550k damage, take the crits this is on average a million per hit.
    - have a LMG with 65k damage per shot and 850 SPM
    - every single enemy takes a ridiculous amount of damage. I mean, i literally shoot 5 minutes to get one down.
    - reinforcements all die in the first 5 minutes of the battle
    - if an enemy lands two shots at me, i'm knocked out

    I left TD1 because of the ridiculous...i mean RIDICULOUS bullet sponge mechanics. This isn't Tom Clancy, this is stand-face-to-face-and-hold-fir-10-minutes-gameplay.
    Is this REALLY the game you are working on? Is this intended to be fun?
    I would like to get better gear to solve these situations, but i can't. Two hits and i'm dead.
    It's 1:1 the same as TD1: you have a BRILLIANT engine. SUPERB graphics. EPIC audio. FANTASTIC look-and-feel controlling the character.
    But you really fail on delivering a gameplay that stands on par with all of this? Massive, come ON. The bullet sponge maechancis are no fun.
    Repeat: BULLET SPONGE MECHANICS are NOT FUN. Give them a billion shots in the face and die if you get hit 2 times?
    This is stupid. And while playing it FEELS stupid. Massive, you have to consider a totally different way than sponging bullets. This mechanic will move players like me away from your game...which i really, really want to succseed, but for this you have to take the bullet-sponge remains of TD1 out of TD2.
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    It was fun all up until this stupid update rolled out.
    But then they started getting "Hey, let's make the game anti-fun, and kill off the entire playerbase, by overscaling the enemies by 5000%"
    A real d1ck move by the developers in this case
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    Runs tanky build. Mobs die slowly. Why????
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    Originally Posted by Angry_Gekko Go to original post
    Hey guys,

    have difficulties to understandi where the fun in this game ended up.
    I'm at SHD lvl 14, armor at 1.5 Mill, health at 350k, map difficulty at 'heavy' (don't concentrate on that, it's one level above 'normal').
    When i try to infiltrate an enemy checkpoint, i experience the following:
    - the battle lasts about 40 min untill i can defeat the first boss.
    - boss takes 50 headshots with sniper rifle at 550k damage, take the crits this is on average a million per hit.
    - have a LMG with 65k damage per shot and 850 SPM
    - every single enemy takes a ridiculous amount of damage. I mean, i literally shoot 5 minutes to get one down.
    - reinforcements all die in the first 5 minutes of the battle
    - if an enemy lands two shots at me, i'm knocked out

    I left TD1 because of the ridiculous...i mean RIDICULOUS bullet sponge mechanics. This isn't Tom Clancy, this is stand-face-to-face-and-hold-fir-10-minutes-gameplay.
    Is this REALLY the game you are working on? Is this intended to be fun?
    I would like to get better gear to solve these situations, but i can't. Two hits and i'm dead.
    It's 1:1 the same as TD1: you have a BRILLIANT engine. SUPERB graphics. EPIC audio. FANTASTIC look-and-feel controlling the character.
    But you really fail on delivering a gameplay that stands on par with all of this? Massive, come ON. The bullet sponge maechancis are no fun.
    Repeat: BULLET SPONGE MECHANICS are NOT FUN. Give them a billion shots in the face and die if you get hit 2 times?
    This is stupid. And while playing it FEELS stupid. Massive, you have to consider a totally different way than sponging bullets. This mechanic will move players like me away from your game...which i really, really want to succseed, but for this you have to take the bullet-sponge remains of TD1 out of TD2.
    That's a RPG game good lord !! that's have to be this game like now ''bullet sponges'' right , this game is not Call of duty or Far cry 5 !
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    Originally Posted by Helgerd123 Go to original post
    Runs tanky build. Mobs die slowly. Why????
    You're missing the point here. He's having 1.5 million aromor, and 300k health, yet still dies in two hits from the enemy, on a much lower difficulty.. I have 650k armor and 250k health, and the same thing applies here. Even though I am playing on Challenging, it still should not be like this.
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    Originally Posted by Helgerd123 Go to original post
    Runs tanky build. Mobs die slowly. Why????
    You must be a dev to give such a stupid answer.
    If you die taking 2 hits, you have to tank even MORE.
    So, do you finally understand this very complex issue?
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    Originally Posted by mOnK_ion Go to original post
    That's a RPG game good lord !! that's have to be this game like now ''bullet sponges'' right , this game is not Call of duty or Far cry 5 !
    You're totally wrong.
    Instead of bullet sponges there's the possibility to solve this by increasing enemy crowds a lot.
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  8. #8
    Originally Posted by Angry_Gekko Go to original post
    You must be a dev to give such a stupid answer.
    If you die taking 2 hits, you have to tank even MORE.
    So, do you finally understand this very complex issue?
    Tanky builds without shield? Yes, that is complex issue.

    Edit: missed this one. Actually the same applies here

    Originally Posted by THE_Crazy_Hyena Go to original post
    You're missing the point here. He's having 1.5 million aromor, and 300k health, yet still dies in two hits from the enemy, on a much lower difficulty.. I have 650k armor and 250k health, and the same thing applies here. Even though I am playing on Challenging, it still should not be like this.
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    Originally Posted by Helgerd123 Go to original post
    Tanky builds without shield? Yes, that is complex issue.
    Ok, so you're not the brightest candle around. I explain this very complex issue to you. If i invest in attack and damage, i get killed with one shot. So...no fun on this side either.
    I really hope, this explaination is not too complicated for you to follow.
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    Originally Posted by Angry_Gekko Go to original post
    Ok, so you're not the brightest candle around. I explain this very complex issue to you. If i invest in attack and damage, i get killed with one shot. So...no fun on this side either.
    I really hope, this explaination is not too complicated for you to follow.
    You get killed in 1 or 2 shots regardless of armour value lol, just run full dps at least you can kill stuff.
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