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[Goat_of_Vermund]

Dear Developers,

Peacekeeper is thrash for 2 years.
Half of Conqueror's moveset is so useless that there is just no existing situation when they may work.
Centurion is thrash for almost 2 years.
Highlander is thrash since his release.
Jormungandr is thrash since her release.
Orochi is thrash from literally day 1.
Shugoki is thrash since Maker knows when.
Nobushi is almost completely useless in duels.
Shinobi is almost completely useless anywhere after his (deserved) nerfs.
Aramusha still has most of his release problems (excluding the back dodge against the finisher).
Nuxia traps can be reacton punished by anyone experienced (a character with a completely unique set of tools being the least picked says something about said tool).
Zhanhu is a pathetic weakling released to suffer, with very basic mixup game and pathetic damage.


So, as far as I count, these are 12 highly problematic characters, and we have the mediocre ones like Zhanhu and Kensei whom I did not even list here. Almost half of the current roster is in an unbelievably pathetic shape. When do you plan to adress those? I think the deadline was somewhere during year 2.

[Siegfried-Z]

I support this.

I would also add Valk and Shaolin which are not weak heros but are still in the mediocre ones.. especially valk.

And i am not even talking about how assassins in general are lacking compare to other heroes or how the perks/feats system needs a big overhaul.

This is why this Y4 lunch was a huge disapointment to me.
I was sure 2 or 3 reworks would happen plus a big balancing pass.. but we only got a charged option select nerf and a few adjustments.

The lack of communication they show is also killing me.. FH community is really involved and they do not use this. Like they have no shame not saying a word about why they are unable to release the promised Cent rework for half a year.. not even when they plan to release it.
Same for Shinobi, they are not even able to say something like "hey guys we know Shino is trash since his big nerfs but dont worry we are working on something cool for him, no exact released date but arround season 2 year 4".
If only... ahh this is an utopia i gess

[Goat_of_Vermund]

I support this.

I would also add Valk and Shaolin which are not weak heros but are still in the mediocre ones.. especially valk.

And i am not even talking about how assassins in general are lacking compare to other heroes or how the perks/feats system needs a big overhaul.

This is why this Y4 lunch was a huge disapointment to me.
I was sure 2 or 3 reworks would happen plus a big balancing pass.. but we only got a charged option select nerf and a few adjustments.

The lack of communication they show is also killing me.. FH community is really involved and they do not use this. Like they have no shame not saying a word about why they are unable to release the promised Cent rework for half a year.. not even when they plan to release it.
Same for Shinobi, they are not even able to say something like "hey guys we know Shino is trash since his big nerfs but dont worry we are working on something cool for him, no exact released date but arround season 2 year 4".
If only... ahh this is an utopia i gess

Yeah, I would also add them too, I wanted to list the most useless. Honestly, characters without major flaws are rarer, maybe that list is shorter: Warden, Black Prior, Lawbringer, Gladiator, Raider (might need attention), Warlord (might need attention), Berserker, Shaman, Hitokiri, JJ (not really fine, just a bit above mediocre). Everyone else is in need of major attention.

The feats, perks, revenge, some game mode, just to list a few, also need major attention as you said. Can not imagine how they plan any future with this game state.

[Lord_Cherubi]

I support this.

I would also add Valk and Shaolin which are not weak heros but are still in the mediocre ones.. especially valk.

And i am not even talking about how assassins in general are lacking compare to other heroes or how the perks/feats system needs a big overhaul.

This is why this Y4 lunch was a huge disapointment to me.
I was sure 2 or 3 reworks would happen plus a big balancing pass.. but we only got a charged option select nerf and a few adjustments.

The lack of communication they show is also killing me.. FH community is really involved and they do not use this. Like they have no shame not saying a word about why they are unable to release the promised Cent rework for half a year.. not even when they plan to release it.
Same for Shinobi, they are not even able to say something like "hey guys we know Shino is trash since his big nerfs but dont worry we are working on something cool for him, no exact released date but arround season 2 year 4".
If only... ahh this is an utopia i gess

I wouldnt say Shaolin is mediocre, he's squishy like a bug but thats the price you have to pay for having such a diverse kit. Not saying he's the absolute best duelist but he has enough tools to keep the enemy guessing.

Valk on the other hand, absolutely agreed. Deny her spam and she cant even touch you 😆

[Siegfried-Z]

Yeah, I would also add them too, I wanted to list the most useless. Honestly, characters without major flaws are rarer, maybe that list is shorter: Warden, Black Prior, Lawbringer, Gladiator, Raider (might need attention), Warlord (might need attention), Berserker, Shaman, Hitokiri, JJ (not really fine, just a bit above mediocre). Everyone else is in need of major attention.

The feats, perks, revenge, some game mode, just to list a few, also need major attention as you said. Can not imagine how they plan any future with this game state.

This list is shorter for sure.

I dont know either. Imo their major problem is not the unability to understand what they should do but the time they need to understand and then change things.

They are so slow that before they will maybe fix all major issues one day, new ones gonna happen.

I mean they only promised 2 hero this year. I hope it means they will be able to balance most heros and have a deeper look at modes and others things we just talk about during the year.

But looking at what we get for this first season which is close to nothing.. i am not confident at all.

What i would like :
-s1 : released of Cent rework before the end.. also some changes to breach and a deathmatch/tribut refresh.

-s2 : new hero + both Shino and HL rework and some urgent love for some heros as Nuxia and Zhanhu.

-s3 : big balancing pass with some others rework as Nobu, Musha and minor to major changes to Conq, PK, Valk, Kensei, Shugo, Roch, JJ , jorme and Shaolin.

-s4 : new hero and rework of the perks/feats system.

Fingers cross...

I wouldnt say Shaolin is mediocre, he's squishy like a bug but thats the price you have to pay for having such a diverse kit. Not saying he's the absolute best duelist but he has enough tools to keep the enemy guessing.

Valk on the other hand, absolutely agreed. Deny her spam and she cant even touch you 😆

In duel he can be dangerous, even if his diverse kit is almost entirely hidden behind a stance he has nothing to access to outside of his top light unless you are risking to let fly some heavies or manage to whiff tech your opponent

In 4s, despite a great rotation he is really lacking .. especially in terms of dmg, survivability and recovery. He is correct almost in every areas, but doesnt shine in any of them.

Valk is only good if spamming works yes, sad story.

[Valoredramack]

Shinobi is almost completely useless anywhere after his (deserved) nerfs.

I've pretty much given up on Ubisoft; Shinobi has been useless ever since Patch 2.11 went live in August 2019.
I started playing For Honor when it first released in early 2017; it was my favorite game without a doubt, but now this game just makes me want to vomit because they are completely neglecting the heroes that need the most work.

I've already waited over 6 months for the Shinobi to get a proper rework since Patch 2.11, but the only thing the devs have done is make the hero even worse. So when the time comes for me to uninstall For Honor on the first day of Spring (March 19, 2020), I'm not going to have a single regret about giving up on this game because there is no reason why it should take this long to fix such obvious problems that players have been complaining about for months or years.

Out of all the games that I own, For Honor is by far the most frustrating and mostly because of heroes getting severely neglected. I don't have these kind of issues with League of Legends or any other competitive games that I have been playing for years.

[MuscleTech12018]

Whaaaaaaat ?
People don't want season pass, lame weapons and armors, stupid emotes and effects ?
They want balanced rooster and good fighting mechanics ?
Who would knew ?! I thought FH so called "developers" knew best ! .... *sarcasm off*