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    I think it largely depends on where you’re at in the game, what parts of it you’re playing, and what you’re looking for in a gaming community.

    So much of the remaining player base is in World Tier 5 I think it can be tough to find people playing in the 1-30 campaign. I know the last time Ieveled up an alt it was pretty rough. I ended up doing almost all of the missions by myself, which was ok because I had done them all a bazillion times, but it’s more fun with others. It will be interesting to see if that changes with the deep price cut and the renewed interest with WoNY coming out. I’ve definitely seen more lower level players in the safe houses over the last couple of days (though not a ton).

    And then it depends on what you’re playing. I’m usually either solo roaming the LZ or playing missions on Challenging. It’s pretty rare, at least on PS4, to run into people using their mics at all in Challenging groups for missions. That’s fine with me. Usually I’m listening to music or something and most folks are pretty chill. You can read on the forums that there are a few more toxic folks in the DZ or Raid groups. I don’t generally do those modes though, so I can’t speak to that.

    And if you’re looking for a tight knit active community that uses a lot of comms and such, you might be disappointed. But like I said, most areas of the game tend to be fairly chill and non toxic, but there are always a few people who love to upset the Apple cart.

    I’d say if you’re looking for help in a specific area or looking to finish off the campaign you might have some luck asking for help here on the forums. I know there are a few good folks on here who will help.
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    Originally Posted by SHDLBC Go to original post
    I think it largely depends on where you’re at in the game, what parts of it you’re playing, and what you’re looking for in a gaming community.

    So much of the remaining player base is in World Tier 5 I think it can be tough to find people playing in the 1-30 campaign
    This. I have noticed a jump in players leveling up over the last few days, though many may not be interested in grouping.

    Anyone having trouble matchmaking should just use "call for backup" instead. That doesn't depend on finding someone doing the same content as you at the same level. Just make sure to endorse them when the thumbs up prompt appears.
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    I still see some streamers inviting players to their Discord if they need help doing RAIDS.
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    I usually go GG after a run in chat, but yeah most people are just silent and moving on instantly after the mission is done.
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    Originally Posted by Dragonmaster083 Go to original post
    To many times on like B&L, people don't understand that you need to keep their HP in the white area or they will full heal. Or those on razorback don't know that you can kill the heavy's by shooting them in the butt (no armor to get thru).
    Maybe a strange idea but you can also inform other members of the group how to tackle specific parts of a mission instead of booting them. I did many incursion mission in TD1 with (new) players that didn't know how to complete those without getting wiped as team. But when you teach them how to play, where to go, and what to do, they will eventually pick up the advise. In the end they might even say: "thanks for the help". But from my experience there are plenty of players that take this game way to serious as if their lives depended on it. But for some it's only about having fun.
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    Originally Posted by BattleAxe80_NL Go to original post
    Hi,

    I was wondering what the community is like these days, i'd like to do the raid one of these days. But i hear stories of people being booted for not having the perfect build for their playstyle. Or not enough DPS by one decimal point. For both the raid and heroics for that matter. People take these things so seriously.

    I did most of the game solo, and when i did group it was in dead silence, without even a thank you or a gg at the end, so it doesn't feel promising.

    Anyway, just curious. Please let me know.
    The correct answer to that is 'nonrepresentative'. The game is currently under a series of significant changes (inc. new content, firesale, etc.), and players are reacting to said changes. Consequently, it would be invalid to make any determinations to that end, given that said determinations could be obsoleted immediately. If you are seeking a stable, accurate answer, it would be best to wait until after a month post-release of the pending Gear 2.0 update.

    From a population perspective, for example, it would be incorrect to infer that, "I tried to get into a raid group... or, I tried to queue into a heroic mission... and was unsuccessful. Therefore, the game is dead." Players may be trying new content (ie. Coney Island, leveling up the new Firewall specialization, etc.), taking a leave until Gear 2.0 drops, etc. Moreover, the firesale is creating an influx of new players, so one should expect that they'll be meandering fecklessly until they establish a grasp.

    From a capability perspective, if you're randomly matchmaking up with PUGs, I have never seen the game so unpredictable. The entire spectrum is possible; from gomer to Tier 1... and all will have GS~500. The commendation score is most effective as a moderate confidence predictor of inexperience when at 0-2500.

    From a disposition perspective, it depends on your tasking. If a number of raid groups are populating, for example, you may have more agency in finding one with comparable tolerances. Conversely, if you're randomly matchmaking up with PUGs for other activities (ie. heroic missions, etc.), you will have very little agency, as your presence there is most likely predicated on completing some requirement. WRT "when i did group it was in dead silence, without even a thank you or a gg at the end", it's very easy for cognitions to get distorted in the absence of communication (esp. voice, which has dispositional cues). Some players, myself included, disabled the chat window as a welcomed countermeasure to D1's Chinese scam spam bots. Other players avoid voice comms consequent to language barriers, insecurity, etc. While yet other players might have another individual in their personal space, screaming in their ear, or be under a personal time constraint, etc.

    WRT "People take these things so seriously", well... that's a bit overgeneralized and subject to many situational variables. The "it's just a game" cliché inadequately represents the complexity of peoples' lives and their reasons for being here. Some may be combat veterans dealing with withdrawal or PTSD. Some may be physically disabled and using it as a means of escapism. Some may come home from a nine to five and just want a minor distraction. Et cetera.

    To further complicate the issue, addressing raids, heroic missions, the pending legendary missions, etc., is to address the most difficult content of the game. Ultimately, it comes down to an issue of respect, both of other players, and the task. Apart from game veterans acting in a training capacity, it stands to reason that any individual that has invested a significant amount of hours developing definitive capabilities would not want to have that investment negated by being lumped into the same category as one who has not. Hence, the idiom of 'carrying your own weight'. To not be able to 'carry your own weight' is to have a lack or respect both for your teammates -- who must bear that burden, and for the task, given that the requirements exceed your capabilities. This is precisely why lower levels exist. This is precisely why additional qualifications for higher levels should exist. I don't doubt anecdotes of unrealistic or otherwise unintelligent demands. Fortunately, I've never encountered any individuals making them. Conversely, it is substantially more likely for inexperienced players to exercise poor judgment by selecting a level of difficulty that exceeds their ability. A quick acid test: if you chronically lose the initiative (ie. find the first cover past a choke point, crouch in a circle jerk with two other teammates, while waiting for your lucky charms to proc so you can use an MMR to engage a target 10m out, while oblivious to multiple flankers), you're not ready for heroic, let alone the raid... not to mention taking a deuce on the reality that is being represented. Rewards should not be pursued in spite of this fact.

    I don't know you or your ability. However, it appears that you're allowing the urban legend of the early twenties raid leader to project some unwarranted negativity onto non-specific individuals and into your game experience. Keep working on your character and understanding of the game. Find some friends. The rest will fall into place.
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    Originally Posted by dagrommit Go to original post
    This. I have noticed a jump in players leveling up over the last few days, though many may not be interested in grouping.

    Anyone having trouble matchmaking should just use "call for backup" instead. That doesn't depend on finding someone doing the same content as you at the same level. Just make sure to endorse them when the thumbs up prompt appears.
    i guess that means the recent sales have been working to get newer players into the game~! =)

    ..

    That was comprehensive V4mPir1~! =)
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