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[ubiGHoSTKF2]

The game is dying because you constantly make the wrong decisions and add more and more "light spammers" yes light spammers, its a problem , people will just choose characters with easy attacks that can string into a lot of damage and just dodge all the time you ruin the game by adding more spammy moves like hitos fast two lights , orochis light speed constantly getting buffed and unbalancing aton of stuff it makes the game unfun with the constant strings that are hard to counter because they can constantly be spammed but when you give buffs to decent characters all of a sudden its bad and unfair, who do you even listen to? The centurion update was awesome i thought it would help because it would allow more mobility and counters against fast attackers and gaurds as it getting hard for cent to do anything with all the other buffs to speed, armour ,and etc but you listen to the people light spamming saying its op? Sure the punce may have done a lot of damage but its unfair how everyone else gets buffs but when cent gets relevant and fun again its a problem i would like to talk more about things but im getting pissed i love this game and it gets ruined because you constantly listen the i dare say bad toxic players instead of the loyal ones bring back the cent update it was good and stop listening to all the crybabies, how do you not see that every buff or character you come out with that has some sort of spammy combo that they abuse constantly kills part of the game

[ubiGHoSTKF2]

Wrong. If you get light spammed that is your own fault. Light spam is reactable since it is a move that is repeated multiple times thus quite easy to punish whether on console or pc. Hito's fast two lights are both 500ms not fast at all. Centurion will get his rework be patient. And only bad players light spam

No bro im not wrong thats just an opinion , and plenty of people agree with me because i have a popular true opinion , its not as reactable as you think i have played for honor consistently for years at least 3 hours a day and ive seen the progression of light spamming and how more and more characters come out with lights that are easy to spam gaurd to block or parry and do lots of damage stop trying to justify light spamming, i know how to play and i never said i lose to it everytime , i beat most of them but i shouldnt have to try so hard to beat someone who constantly backs away and does a three hit 45 damage+ combo ten times. Tiandis fast side lights and dash lights, hitos lights and kick spam into longrange gb and constant trading,nuxias instant lights,pks lights,orochis 30 move light combo, its ridiculous and unfun then they constantly get buffs to the speed or the new characters light speed is always boosted super high and the people that need buffs get nerfed instead not to mention all these characters besides hito can constantly dodge and instantly get a light off for free if they do it the moment someone attacks which is easy, now i dont struggle at all like other people but its annoying when people constantly do the same crap and no matter how good you play they are bound to get a few lights in and take half your health in three hits somehow, oh and also the lights can constantly get switched to any side , oh and sure the pattern will be easy to react after a while too but they are bound to get hits in and with these characters its multiple large damage light strings due to the cojntless hard to dodge or counter moves like tiandis palm strike and hitos kick that can allow even longer strings into lights.

[Chump94]

No bro im not wrong thats just an opinion , and plenty of people agree with me because i have a popular true opinion , its not as reactable as you think i have played for honor consistently for years at least 3 hours a day and ive seen the progression of light spamming and how more and more characters come out with lights that are easy to spam gaurd to block or parry and do lots of damage stop trying to justify light spamming, i know how to play and i never said i lose to it everytime , i beat most of them but i shouldnt have to try so hard to beat someone who constantly backs away and does a three hit 45 damage+ combo ten times. Tiandis fast side lights and dash lights, hitos lights and kick spam into longrange gb and constant trading,nuxias instant lights,pks lights,orochis 30 move light combo, its ridiculous and unfun then they constantly get buffs to the speed or the new characters light speed is always boosted super high and the people that need buffs get nerfed instead not to mention all these characters besides hito can constantly dodge and instantly get a light off for free if they do it the moment someone attacks which is easy, now i dont struggle at all like other people but its annoying when people constantly do the same crap and no matter how good you play they are bound to get a few lights in and take half your health in three hits somehow, oh and also the lights can constantly get switched to any side , oh and sure the pattern will be easy to react after a while too but they are bound to get hits in and with these characters its multiple large damage light strings due to the cojntless hard to dodge or counter moves like tiandis palm strike and hitos kick that can allow even longer strings into lights.

If every single attack in the game was perfectly reactable noone would play it. How would you kill anyone if every single attack you throw is countered, there would be no reason to attack. Where is this proof that the devs are listening only to "cry babies" this is completely baseless, and amon is right if you are being light spammed thats on you. People who light spam are giving you an open invitation to kill them.

[ubiGHoSTKF2]

First no one said it had to be perfectly reactable second no its not that simple it seems to me you have not played long enough, its not an "open invititation" please get more experience but let me put it this way, its not easy to go against high rep players that can trap you in a vortex because of how es a characters dodge and recovery time can easily combo into multiple lights and nearly uncounterable combos no matter how long you play, plus the "cry babies"cry whenever a character becomes relevant again and light spammers start struggling again, also why does cent rework gets cancelled when he can counter the lights easier but when orochi gets multiple buffs to his already insanely fast lights they dont? There are multiple problems and reasons as to why people struggle with lights.But please do tell me why the community left when i remember the moment characters started gettign faster and faster and more spammy thats when people started to leave in large groups

[ubiGHoSTKF2]

Im honestly convinced you cant read and no hes not the worst character, the worst is shinobi by a long shot.

[Soldier_of_Dawn]

I agree that light spam is still a thing since not everyone has the best reactions and prediction skills. This reminds me of discussion on a similar thread regarding the damage of light attacks, where I went back and forth with someone over the issue.

I know that reading offense in general is a basic to medium trait. However, dealing with or predicting lights at their current damage & speed consistently either requires great reactions or the amount of practice that is commonly found among high-level to pro players and is beyond what I feel should be expected of the average player. Learning the entire kit of a hero and learning to defend against the current roster of 26+ should be enough. Players should only be encouraged to do more than that if they seek to do well in ranked or competitive play. Predicting lights doesn’t involve learning to defend against a hero’s kit but more to do with dealing with their speed. Again reducing the damage would help more players do this.

https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...ll-health-pool

As with any attack that has overtuned damage, the current damage of lights leaves little headroom for mistakes and forces a level a consistency that isn't realistic to expect from the average player. Reducing the damage of lights would give more players time to predict them, which would encourage a higher level of play all round. Should lights be nerfed globally? No since global nerfs come with no compensation but when each heroes gets updated, light damage should be looked into.

[RickC95]

I think that a solution for light spamming could be: make it more difficult combos to do. Do you want to play aggressively? ok man tries this really long and difficult chain of buttons. For you it's harder to do, for me it's hard to block.

[Chump94]

Im honestly convinced you cant read and no hes not the worst character, the worst is shinobi by a long shot.

As a rep 33 shinobi can confirm orochi is much worse, if you think orochi is competitive in any way you are sorely mistaken. I have 800 hours on this game and find it quite easy to parry lights if anything I think you need to put in more time.

[ubiGHoSTKF2]

I dont know what you are on about but you have not played for honor enough obviously, shinobi has little to no health and mobility and he does not do alot of damage at all , he is also super easy to counter so much so that i very rarely lose to a shinobi and the only way they have killed me is due to lights and even shinobis lights are easy to counter so he can light spam but at a cost, his heavys are slower than most assasins and he has no more armor so he can easily be stopped and his long range attack is very easy to stop and parry plus he losses almost all stamina on parry for normal moves and literally all stamina on parry on his long range attack, his backflip has no range either anymore and its hard to deflect as he has a horrible gaurd, orochi can do combos nonstop until he runs out of stam, has two high damage deflects,he can get an infinite number of free light hits, his heavys are fast and do 40 damage , he has a great dodge and can get two heavys on knock down and he has three dodge moves 1 back, 1 side and 1 foward which can all combo plus his back dash heavy stance which grants another 3 dash heavy attacks that can also combo and one of the best hitboxes and gaurds in the game.

[ubiGHoSTKF2]

As a rep 33 shinobi can confirm orochi is much worse, if you think orochi is competitive in any way you are sorely mistaken. I have 800 hours on this game and find it quite easy to parry lights if anything I think you need to put in more time.

I have lots of time on 4 honor i can parry lights quite easy i have to in order to survive ive stated this many times its the fact that they can still do get away with so much cheese and once it starts you lose alot of health no matter what and its hard for people like cent to fight assasins as hes just going to get dodged and assasins will not play aggresive alot so you have to go to them or play a long waiting game im very convinced you are bluffing or just protecting your main i could care less about cent its a problem for almost all characters that arent assasins themselves there aee so many ways they can cheese attacks and lights tl instantly take away all your health i know this because i have repped ever single character in the game and i know how to play every single character so when someone cheeses i switch to someone else if they stay but it shouldnt be so bad to the point where a character is completely useless because of a 4 to three moves from an assasin they can abuse over and over.