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    Free win bots issue

    Mkay we are Tollerless but I’m still gonna post. I usually get good scores in challenges, at least good enough to get 770 pvp tickets and some cards, since the bots invaded I don’t get that anymore, for two challenges with decent scores. If you don’t play at the right time (when the bots are around) then you’re not gonna have a very high scores and you’ll be swiped away from your deserved rewards. Many players must be affected by this so there should be some compensation pack with at least the missing PvP tickets.

    About the issue, you don’t even need a fancy fix, just invalidate matches that end between 2:20 and 2:38 and you’ll cover a big area of invalid matches. At least until you guys can have a proper solution; hope we get our missing PvP tickets.
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    I had one of those bot runs 2 challenges ago, I probably wouldn't have made the end.. but yea I still dropped 200 odd places from where I was... didnt care because the rewards are pish, the good stuff is finishing, which people can now do, I would rather see this then copy paste decks like usual
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    Originally Posted by Void_Away- Go to original post
    About the issue, you don’t even need a fancy fix, just invalidate matches that end between 2:20 and 2:38 and you’ll cover a big area of invalid matches. At least until you guys can have a proper solution; hope we get our missing PvP tickets.
    Ok, then I'll just wait 40 seconds to make a first move

    Some people think everything is easy, until you ask them a question.
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    I want to know how they get the high ELO. And I ran into three in a row this morning, it’s just stupid
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    Originally Posted by AndrewWang42 Go to original post
    I want to know how they get the high ELO. And I ran into three in a row this morning, it’s just stupid
    They can fake any ELO they want, all the info is fake...
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    Yeah, nothing about the info is correct. At least it hasn't gotten to team wars yet, but for sure the main ladder is still screwed up from the ELO infusion, and the challenge scores are a joke. I agree it stinks for anyone who is legitimately putting up a good score in challenge.
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    Originally Posted by camelchasers Go to original post
    Yeah, nothing about the info is correct. At least it hasn't gotten to team wars yet, but for sure the main ladder is still screwed up from the ELO infusion, ....
    Well, at least the free win bots now make sure you get 0 ELO from it.

    To be honest, the occasional free win during this weekends event was kind of nice After a few meaningless losses or draws, which gave you absolutely zero progress in the event, a free win would compensate for that. Which is something RL should already have looked into a long time ago in order to make the events less tedious, especially for long time players who have already done the TWO event types a million times by now and who are in legendary where each phone and win is harder to come by.

    New event types, baseline rewards for all wins, partial rewards for draws, etc, are all simple ways to make events less frustrating and keep some of the fun in the game.

    They could also add all kinds of missions (like in many other games) that will give you some minor rewards when you complete them, like... "Deal 3000 damage to other NKs" or "defeat 200 enemy units in PvP" or "WIn 5 PvP games". Rewards would be based on difficulty and could be pvp tickets, coins, cartman cash, one or more random common/rare/epic cards, X random bronze/silver/gold materials, etc etc.

    Doing at least one mission per day would give some bonus after X consecutive days. Throwing a mission away would mean you had to wait for X minutes to get a new one, or do something specific in the game. Or perhaps they could be handed out in the free packs (if you have the space). And as per standard formula you can have a maximum of say 3 or 5 such missions at any time.

    Missions like that would keep giving you rewards for playing and make most PvP matches rewarding because they would yield some kind of progress towards one or more of your special missions.

    And no, I dont count callgirl's missions as "the game already has this", since they are PvE only and a massive snoozefest to boot.
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    All really good ideas! But hopefully the team development time will be channelled more toward how to get things running properly serverside now. But I am really curious about these changes to token events that Buck hinted at a couple weeks ago...

    The bot issue is a bigger problem the further you move up the ladder. It seems like it triggers after waiting for a match more than 5 seconds or so. At lower rank where there are more players to match with you might run into it less, but above 9k where matchmaking normally takes 30 seconds or more, it happens nearly every game. I think out of my 30 games yesterday, only 3 were against human opponents... not good.
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    Originally Posted by camelchasers Go to original post
    I think out of my 30 games yesterday, only 3 were against human opponents... not good.
    Wow, really? Thats horrible. I only saw a few during the event around 7500, maybe 1 (or possibly 2) in 10 or so was a bot. Outside of the event I didnt see it at all.
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    Originally Posted by camelchasers Go to original post
    hopefully the team development time will be channelled more toward how to get things running properly serverside now. But I am really curious about these changes to token events that Buck hinted at a couple weeks ago...
    True, hopefully they will fix server side now (finally). I just feel like they have been sleeping on the job for a bit too long.

    If you had asked me after the beta if I had thought the game would have been more or less unchanged 2 years later, still client sided and still with only two event types and still suffering from some of the same unfixed issues I would never have considered saying yes.

    There have - of course - been improvements made to the game, especially in terms of GUI tweaks, the challenge mode, callgirls missions, etc. It just doesnt feel like there has been as much momentum as one would have expected and hoped for from major title such as a south park game.

    But yes, I also hope they have come up with some interesting changes to the token events
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