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[Erhanninja]

Pls nerf this guy seriously. He is way over the top. He has best of all

[ArchDukeInstinct]

It was really hilarious when all those Lawbringer mains were pretending that Lawbringer was nerfed with his rework. I'm not agreeing he's OP, his offense is still far from stellar for example. But when you get tools like a 400ms light from neutral for interrupting , you get your really tough matchups like LB vs Conq fixed, and you retain your superb punishes, you would think they would at least try to look at things a little objectively and not just stammer "He doesn't have hyper armor like I wanted, so it's a nerf!!!"

[Erhanninja]

Oh yeah I play as Conq a lot and feel your pain. He is at the bottom. I dont play with him to win. I okay for fun. I know it's very rareto win. Against LB it is as good as impossible. Like a lot of other heroes.

I'm sick and tired fighting against this guy constantly stunned and OOS. His every attack does stun and takes my stamina so stupid. It's over the top. He doesnt lack anything why has so much stun and stamina punish? They nerf raiders tap and keep this guys few stuns? Impale stun lighting fast top light stun top heavy stun (also gets a free light after that like why?) Heavy parry stun. He already has impale pretty much instant death if not wallsplat into half of my health and full stamina gone. Again impale from heavy again wallsplat if not ledge. UB in every direction. Side dodge into shove with HA so that's dodge attack in itself. Pancake flip for ganking. Massive HP on top.

[Knight_Raime]

Current LB is exactly the kind of hero we get when the devs decide to stick to "hero identity" rather than making a proper rework to a problematic design. You actively limit yourself in options for changes when you confine yourself to a box like that. Until the devs stop trying to stick to OG hero design reworks are never going to be as good as they could/should be.

[Gaser.]

You know it’s bad about a defensive problem when people thank you for playing Conq and Lb as offensively as possible. X3

[Gore_Boar]

Oh damn, all these LB is OP posts....
LB is not op and neither is he trash. I agree that his punishes deal to much dmg, he is a parry monster. But hes only a monster if the player is pretty good in parrying. And that player would be good with every other class too. I have only played LB till rep 28 and i would give up his parry punish for an actual opener or some tools where you can build up preasure. If you play FH on a maybe higher level where the players can easy parry lights and of course LB´s slow as **** heavys, don´t fall for feint gb and more, there is not sooo much without turteling that you can do with him. Don´t get me wrong i don´t say that he ist bad, got strong tools, is a lot of fun, a win feels pretty rewarding but hes not op. And like mentioned above, when you cant win with a conq ( because hes on the bottom???) than youre maybe not good with conq, cause a good conq is more pain in the *** than a lb

[Erhanninja]

I never said LB is OP. I said he just have too much punish in every way. And you dont have to a parry God. Even heavy parry gives massive punish. You can impale into ledging or wallsplat meaning top heavy into light stun with damage on top. So from a heavy parry you end up with half health no stamina and stun on top. That is if he has no teammate. If you dont call this heavy punish then something is wrong with me.

If you think Conq is in a good state right now which is from season 1 toolkit. They did a rework but never helped him. Which actually made him worse but it was necessary to remove heavy block GB. He has only his shield bash and then it is useless against assassins Warden LB etc. Then Conq has no heavy class properties at all. No high HP no HA no UB (charged heavy is useless) massive GB vulnerability at the start and at the end of the SB. And it gives a lot of revenge doing 6 damage. Toe stab does 10 damage and much safer than SB. He cant feint either.

[iiTipsy]

For Lawbringer:

- KEEP HIS 150 HP
- KEEP IS 50 DAMAGE LIGHT PARRY PUNISH
- NERF HIS HEAVY PARRY PUNISH FROM 40 (THE WALL SPLAT PUNISH) TO 15
- DELETE DODGE SHOVE. LAWBRINGER IS NOT A CHARACTER THAT SHOULD BE DODGING ANYTHING. THATS WHAT HIS HEALTH POOL IS FOR TANKING.
- CHANGE TOP LIGHT TO 500 MS, AND KEEP IT A TAP MOVE. KEEPING IT A TAP MOVE MAKES IT REASONABLE TO LOWER THE DAMAGE TO 5. YES. 5 DAMAGE.
- KEEP THE TOP HEAVY STUN.
- MAKE HIS UNBLOCKABLE HEAVIES 1200 MS.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

For Lawbringer:

- KEEP HIS 150 HP
- KEEP IS 50 DAMAGE LIGHT PARRY PUNISH
- NERF HIS HEAVY PARRY PUNISH FROM 40 (THE WALL SPLAT PUNISH) TO 15
- DELETE DODGE SHOVE. LAWBRINGER IS NOT A CHARACTER THAT SHOULD BE DODGING ANYTHING. THATS WHAT HIS HEALTH POOL IS FOR TANKING.
- CHANGE TOP LIGHT TO 500 MS, AND KEEP IT A TAP MOVE. KEEPING IT A TAP MOVE MAKES IT REASONABLE TO LOWER THE DAMAGE TO 5. YES. 5 DAMAGE.
- KEEP THE TOP HEAVY STUN.
- MAKE HIS UNBLOCKABLE HEAVIES 1200 MS.

Congratulations! You just managed to create new problems in his kit (no answer to bashes, no offense, useless neutral lights, terribly slow heavy finishers) without solving any of his existing ones (50 damage on a light parry, insanely broken hp bar).

By the way, how would you deal with a bash without dodging it? I am curious.

[Siegfried-Z]

I never said LB is OP. I said he just have too much punish in every way. And you dont have to a parry God. Even heavy parry gives massive punish. You can impale into ledging or wallsplat meaning top heavy into light stun with damage on top. So from a heavy parry you end up with half health no stamina and stun on top. That is if he has no teammate. If you dont call this heavy punish then something is wrong with me.

If you think Conq is in a good state right now which is from season 1 toolkit. They did a rework but never helped him. Which actually made him worse but it was necessary to remove heavy block GB. He has only his shield bash and then it is useless against assassins Warden LB etc. Then Conq has no heavy class properties at all. No high HP no HA no UB (charged heavy is useless) massive GB vulnerability at the start and at the end of the SB. And it gives a lot of revenge doing 6 damage. Toe stab does 10 damage and much safer than SB. He cant feint either.

While i fully agree LB punish are too strong, his impale into wallsplat only guarantee the top heavy, not the light follow up as well. Despite the stun i regularly parry the combo light and i am on console.

Conqueror speaking, his kit may feels old compare to most others but he is still a very strong heroe in both 1v1 and 4s.
If well played, a Conq with his perk/feats is one of the hardest heroe to kill.