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Junior Member
Need some help with XBOX One Kinect
Hey all! I'm going to buy XBOX One with Kinect but I'm not sure if I can use it. I don't have TV but I do have a laptop with Windows 10 (which has official xbox app). So can I connect xbox to the laptop and use it with Kinect?
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Junior Member
Just Dance Kinect issues
Does anyone know how Just Dance 2020 works on Xbox One with Kinect? When it says place yourself next to a coach are you supposed to see yourself on the screen? I can’t seem to get passed this point. It doesn’t register any movements when you go on to play. If anyone can help me that would be great my poor daughter got it for Christmas and can’t play
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Junior Member
Issue workaround
So, i posted on JD2019 about having the same issue. In further troubleshooting, I have found a workaround of sorts. If you set your system to offline mode and start the game, run 1 dance (you don't even need to finish it) to see if your connect is recognizing bodies. If it does, hit the xbox button again on the controller and turn your network back on. This should open up all online items.
It seems that the game is polling somewhere for access to your kinect instead of using local settings, but without getting deep into the software, this is only a guess. Now my issue appears to be online songs stopping halfway through. Sigh... another troubleshooting session...
Hope this helps everyone (and that includes you software developers)
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Before the song begins, I see a body-outline image on the screen when it asks me to place myself next to the coach. Make sure the Kinect sensor is facing you and isn't blocked by anything (like the edge of a table). It should be about 2 feet off the ground, level, directed to where you want to be when you're dancing. Try adjusting how far you stand away from Kinect, like 8 to 10 feet, experiment a bit (allowing for you to move forward/backward during the dance). Wave your arms and legs, trying to get the sensor to pick you up. Try seeing if someone of typical adult size can get the Kinect sensor to pick them up. It may be harder to get kids to track as well, so it may help to start with someone adult size.
If you can't get a body-outline image to appear on the screen, you have some technical issue. Once you get some body-outline image, you can work on making it look more humanlike to get it to score better. Once you get Xbox Kinect to work, it tracks fairly well. It is ordinarily pretty plug and play, easy to get to work. But if you have an image that looks pretty distorted, I can offer a few suggestions. If there is no image at all, you need to talk to tech support, perhaps for Xbox, perhaps for Ubisoft.
Good luck and happy dancing.
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Junior Member
so i have had the same issue, and searching all forums, after i turned xbox into offline mode and restarted, kinect started working.
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Ubisoft Support Staff
Hi drunk_munki! I'm glad to hear that you were able to get the issue resolved. Thank you for sharing your suggestion!
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Junior Member
Problems with scoring (kinect and not only it, probably)
Hello! We all know that some moves in JD are broken - even if you do moves exactly as a coach you get Super or worse so you have to find a trick how to get Perfect (which might be doing completely different move or doing move in some special time). I'm even sure that real coaches wouldn't get all perfects for their dances and that's just nonsense lol I think this should be resolved by some patches or something. Now a lot of my friends are being more disappointed than satisfied from the game. So do something, please
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Are you speaking of JD 2020, a different year, or Unlimited? I had troubles with some dances when I was first learning how to dance with Kinect, especially Just Dance 2014 and Just Dance 4. In my experience, Just Dance 2018 thru 2020 are scored pretty reasonably with Xbox Kinect, and much better in general than previous years. It's pretty reasonable to hit 13k or a high 12 on the Just Dance 2020 songs.
But having gone through the 300+ songs of the Unlimited catalog, I agree with you on many of the dances from 2014 and earlier. Sometimes it does seem like there is a trick to a move, or at least there is some technical point it is looking for, perhaps exaggerated. Maybe I am scoring better in 2020 because I have a lot of experience with studying and practicing Unlimited dances, learning how to turn a wide variety of moves from X's or OK's to perfects, so maybe I have more of an idea of what the game is expecting now.
When I visit the WDF, there seem to be many players using Kinect and even using other platforms who hit high 13's on just about everything. I put up a few good scores today in a tournament and didn't even scare the person who finished in first, who was using Xbox, likely Kinect.
Do you see a clean body-outline image when you're selecting your dancer at the beginning of the song, and later at the top of the screen? The sensor seems to work pretty good in many conditions these days, but sometimes it helps to avoid having objects in the background that might get confused with the dancer, wear clothing that makes your leg angles and torso angles clear, wear shoes to help it pick up your feet, wear clothing that contrasts with your background, set the sensor about 2 feet off the ground and level it, and stand about the right distance so that it picks up your feet and hands when you raise them over your head, allowing for a couple of a steps toward the t.v. if the choreography requires it, but don't be too far away either (it doesn't hurt to experiment). The sensor/game may have trouble picking up kids and smaller dancers using Kinect.
It seems to be a combination of good rhythm/tracking and proper full-body technique. I'm sure the people who work on scoring spend time asking themselves, "What would the best dancers do correctly during this move that other players wouldn't do quite as well, which is important to the choreography?" From 2017 onward, I've discovered many moves by experiment, turning a lower score into a perfect, where I felt afterward, "Okay, that makes sense." It's rare that I feel disappointed. I was a bit disappointed when I finally hit 12900 on the tennis version of Water Me; I kind of felt like I was doing the dance better when I was hitting 12700. But that's been a rare feeling for me, except for 2014 and earlier. This year, I was having trouble with Soy Yo at first, but when I finally figured it out, the scoring made sense and my personal best went way higher than I was expecting.
But I understand. When I first switched from Wii U to Xbox Kinect in 2017, I was getting frustrated with OK's and X's on some moves. It's frustrating to do your best on a move and take an X, especially on a Gold Move, even more so when you finally figure it out if it doesn't seem like the penalty fits the crime. They should be careful not to award an X or OK for a rather small detail; that's what Super should be for. On Funky Town, for example, it took me a lot of experimentation to figure out why I was taking X's on a few moves, and when I finally got it, I felt like the punishment was rather extreme; it seemed like a subtle thing to take an X for. But I understand that the top dancers should have done that right. I also don't see why Gold Moves need to be all or nothing. If a Gold Move is worth 5 perfects, then taking an X is like taking five X's at once. What's wrong with taking an OK or Good on a Gold Move? For great dancers, taking the equivalent of five OK"s or five Goods on a Gold Move would be punishment enough.
Which dances are giving you and your friends the most frustration? Any specific examples that are bothering you? You're right about the "not only it, probably." The PS4 camera, phone game play, Switch Joy-Con, PS Move, everything has its issues. I wish they would post a few videos of examples of mistakes that people have made in older Unlimited examples and the corresponding scores so that I could think, "Okay, that makes sense," and people could learn a few tips about the tracking and scoring. Maybe they could show a few of the World Cup dancers doing those moves right to help show the difference. Thanks for posting your question.
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Junior Member
I agree that 13k are not that difficult in JD 2020 but my point was that some moves are just broken. Like 1st move in Old Town Road (normal version) - my friends and I recorded on a video how we do it and how the coach does. Even with perfect timing and perfect technique we get only Super. Kinect worked just fine. We have the same problem with Con Altura for example (the move when you slowly raise your left hand). And I know how to get perfect on this move but that still would be some sort of cheating. So I just hope that developers would pay more attention to this problem and not ignore it like right now :/
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Those are great examples. I see what you're saying. There are always a few stubborn moves like those. There is one stubborn move in Con Altura, for example, where the thing I do to hit a super or perfect instead of good doesn't seem exactly right, but it seems to work for me. But there are also many times where I've finally had that AHA moment where I realized I had been making a mistake and what had seemed like a stubborn, broken move started to work and make sense (for example, I discovered a few of these in Tel Aviv).
Yet the scores are already crazy high on Xbox Kinect. Just imagine if there weren't any such moves how even more outrageous the scores will be. Happy dancing. :-)