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View Poll Results: You agree with balancing changes on characters?

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  • Yes , I am

    3 27.27%
  • No , I'm not

    8 72.73%
  1. #1

    Revert your changes on Shinobi or if you aren't that lazy do an overhaul !

    Stop this Ubisoft , gather more people on your Fight team , Dev Tester Team(bc these type of people are so important , idk what they're doing there)
    Ask the community on somewhere , Stop "bALaNCiNg" your game around the competitive people , even they can't win all their games and 1v1 , and bc of something , people call em "Pros"
    ask the "Majority" of your players.

    Actually you should take notes from MK11 and see how Ed Boon and their team work , it's not a bad thing after all to ask help !

    the changes on shinobi are unacceptable , and I hate to bring this up anymore cuz we are tired of your Bull**** . why you create testing grounds again?
    Thanks Bye till you do something !
    1400 Hours on PC !
    Also on Reddit :
    https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/co...about_ubisoft/
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  2. #2

    Revert your changes on Shinobi or if you aren't that lazy do an overhaul

    I hope they do that
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  3. #3
    I'm surprised that even the reddit users feel ignored when
    it comes to balance changes.

    most of the devs go there for the "Community Spotlight".

    Not hating just surprised that they ignore you too.

    They don't communicate that much in the forums either which is kinda
    sad for a very rich and historically focused
    gaming company to have not much communication
    with the people who bought the game or got it for free.

    The mods just say we'll relay it to them but
    none of the devs check the forums themselves
    To look at all these amazing ideas that people gave out.

    only for the mods to have a definite possibility that the
    devs will look at it and usually it's like a couple ideas that
    go to game over 2 months or more.

    I just hope that this year of reckoning/year of I need healing will
    actually be a ton of balance updates (including shinobi)
    that this game rly needs with the release of 2 heroes.
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    Originally Posted by garr1999 Go to original post
    I'm surprised that even the reddit users feel ignored when
    it comes to balance changes.

    most of the devs go there for the "Community Spotlight".

    Not hating just surprised that they ignore you too.

    They don't communicate that much in the forums either which is kinda
    sad for a very rich and historically focused
    gaming company to have not much communication
    with the people who bought the game or got it for free.

    The mods just say we'll relay it to them but
    none of the devs check the forums themselves
    To look at all these amazing ideas that people gave out.

    only for the mods to have a definite possibility that the
    devs will look at it and usually it's like a couple ideas that
    go to game over 2 months or more.

    I just hope that this year of reckoning/year of I need healing will
    actually be a ton of balance updates (including shinobi)
    that this game rly needs with the release of 2 heroes.
    I'm making sure that Shinobi's issues are brought up. I don't think we would deny that he has the issues in question.

    Just to be clear, I can't present literally every rework suggestion to people. That would not be time-efficient for anybody. But I do try to look for recurring topics and communicate them to the team, especially specific moveset changes. I can see that Shinobi is coming up a lot these days, and really has been since the nerf.

    The "Ubi only loves Reddit" thing is something I've seen people talk about for years. But I've been reading + posting here for much of that time and can tell you that's not the case.

    It's hard to argue against the fact that we look at Reddit. Yes we do! It has 250k subscribers, it would be pretty silly if we ignored it. Not sure what else to say on the subject.
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    Originally Posted by WAO_Halsey Go to original post
    Stop this Ubisoft , gather more people on your Fight team , Dev Tester Team(bc these type of people are so important , idk what they're doing there)
    Ask the community on somewhere , Stop "bALaNCiNg" your game around the competitive people , even they can't win all their games and 1v1 , and bc of something , people call em "Pros"
    ask the "Majority" of your players.

    Actually you should take notes from MK11 and see how Ed Boon and their team work , it's not a bad thing after all to ask help !

    the changes on shinobi are unacceptable , and I hate to bring this up anymore cuz we are tired of your Bull**** . why you create testing grounds again?
    Thanks Bye till you do something !
    1400 Hours on PC !
    Also on Reddit :
    https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/co...about_ubisoft/
    If you played shinobi so much then there is no way you don't understand that his kit had to be smashed immediately. He was cancer to the games health. The devs should have put other reworks on hold to give him the emergency rework he needed to follow up his nerf i will agree but undoing the changes is an absolutely awful idea
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    Originally Posted by CanadianSoupMan Go to original post
    If you played shinobi so much then there is no way you don't understand that his kit had to be smashed immediately. He was cancer to the games health. The devs should have put other reworks on hold to give him the emergency rework he needed to follow up his nerf i will agree but undoing the changes is an absolutely awful idea
    Thats a load of crap dude. Aspects of it like many things needed tweaking. but most of those tweaks were all made long before his most recent nerf.
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    Originally Posted by WAO_Halsey Go to original post
    1400 Hours on PC !
    1400 Hours and asking for old shinobi to come back, well this is a good example that even people with over 1000+ hours have no real idea about balance.
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    The devs historically have almost never reverted changes. Especially on a massive scale like what you're asking. The only nerf he received that was overkill was his kick being dumpstered almost immediately after his launch. It was a busted move for sure, but they handled it poorly. The main problem is that they didn't do enough with his kit overall. He still needs some substantial nerfs. And also some substantial buffs.

    Next year is kind of meant to be the rebalance year though so who knows. Maybe him and Jorge will actually get kit redesigns instead of basically gimping the game perm because they're sticking to "hero identity."
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    Changes to Shinobi, especially regarding the quad dodge fix attempts, have often been reverted because the "fix" would create other problems.
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    Originally Posted by Gaser. Go to original post
    1400 Hours and asking for old shinobi to come back, well this is a good example that even people with over 1000+ hours have no real idea about balance.
    1162 hours in. In my opinion, the best spot Shinobi had been since its launch (or the best spot where he should be) is pre-perks patch (because he needed the stamina reduction / regen on his gear), at 110 hp, with the sickle rain nerfed, without the kick hyper armor removed (I would remove the "super" armor and give it simple hyper armor).

    Pretty sure every shinobi players have been together on this.
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