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My guess is they have to make it horrible before they do a rework so anything they do to him at this point will sound like a buff welcomed by all shinobi players.
I would pretty much be up for any kind of rework, as long as they dont touch the ranged GB from neutral. If they remove that, I'm gone from the game for good.
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Range Guardbreak from neutral should especially not be a thing.Originally Posted by We.the.North Go to original post
From a back dodge sure but not from neutral
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My second guess is they used fake accounts to write "reworks" on forums just to test out the reaction from other "real" players and none of the rework received positive feedback enough, thus they are holding out on announcing Shinobi is being reworked before they find something that's good in the public opinion.
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That's your opinion. But in Dominion, the only reason I enjoy playing a 110 hp character when BP with perks and feat can shoot well above 200 hp is that ability to range GB during his recovery frames. Back dodge + GB wont allow the Shinobi to catch half the crew of characters because of timing issues. You'll end up not only whiffing all your ranged GB (like against a conqueror shieldbash after the shinobi backflip ... the range attack goes THROUGH him), but it'll also feed massive revenge.Originally Posted by Gaser. Go to original post
Shinobi ranged GB already has enough restriction as it is to be able to "land" (must be against someone in recovery frames). Add also the fact, when countered, it offer the opponent the highest punish in the game (knock down punish .. you know characters like orochi gest 2 top heavy from a knockdown punish right ?). So ya, you bet such a hard to pull off move with massive punish if not done right has to be REALLY GOOD in order to see any use at all.
You want to remove that ?? Give Hyper armor back to Shinobi on all his move, rebuff his backflip range and give it i-frames, buff his hp to 120 and while we're at it, give us good perks to begin with. Give us more combo chains and make is so our stuff chain for a longer period of time. Make is so we're not out of stamina after 3 moves. Last, when our ranged moves are countered, remove completely the knockdown by allowing us to do a front roll. Do ALL THIS and I will consider staying after the neutral ranged GB is removed.
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It was here somewhere...Originally Posted by We.the.North Go to original post
I know I put it here somewhere...
Ah! There it is! My tinfoil hat!
Enough joking.
The **** what?
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Hyper armour on a bash that also belong s to the fastest and most mobile hero in the game shouldn’t be a thing.Originally Posted by We.the.North Go to original post
The back dodge distance would be buffed a little.
His perks are fine and pretty fitting in my opinion.
Like really they should start from scratch and only keep his ranged heavys and sickle rain to keep keep his identity. (Neutral ranged gb should be removed and only be a move that comes from a backflip and no neutral positions.)
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There are another 20 posts with discussion about Shinobi. At this point, lets just wait for Ubisoft to a) Keep doing nothing or b) Announce something. I'm sure they have all the data in the world they needed.
My guess is : Dont hold your breath. They have shown in the last state of balance how BAD Shinobi is with an overall 35% winrate and they did not even discuss anything about why he's that low. So they either have no clue what to do with him or they are unofficially saying ranged attacks in this game was a bad idea so they make it so the Shinobi is so bad nobody will play him anymore and those obnoxious ranged attacks will be so unfrequent it wont create too much frustration to the rest of the playerbase.
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I mean I can understand the frustration of shinobi players buy frustration shouldn’t effect your view on balance.Originally Posted by AmonDarkGod Go to original post
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Originally Posted by Gaser. Go to original post
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3$ for 1000 friends on facebook. I sadly couldn't find the articale, but it was made public Justin Trudeau (our prime minister) had paid to have a "facebook survey" about the Transmountain Pipeline and see if it was "positive" within the population. Our journalists found out the Liberals paid to have fake votes on that survey and make it look like hte population was behind our prime minister on that subject. It's 100% information and population manipulation.
I'm sorry, but you are a fool if you dont think some posts made by Ubisoft saying overwhelmingly positive things about the game or making massive suggestion can't be done internaly by people working on the game as "surveys" within the rest of the player base. Then, they can use other "fake accounts" to keep the debate alive. It becomes even more pathetic when you check FHTracker website and the people posting those massive ideas and being super active on the forums dont even play the game. And you know what, If I was working on the game, that's exactly what I would do to get some very cheap input on the game.
If you think the public information isn't being manipulated sometimes, especially on Ubisoft's very own forums, you are the fool. You should always question every bit of information in front of you and ask yourself if that information comes from a trustworthy source. It's not "tin foil hat conspiration theory", it's living in this world of fake news (publicly acknowledged by Facebook as being a big problem) and Russians being able to manipulate the USA elections.
