Junior Member
Im sure Zhanny is getting a buff soon, and when he does they NEED to make these changes.
Zhanu can get guard broken out of his unblockable chain heavy startups. Its literally a guaranteed gb punsih for trying to continue my chain. This is unacceptable because it literally forces you to only use his light finishers if you want to finish his chain. It cuts his mixup power in half. The only reason why people aren't abusing this is because they probably don't know about it.
Secondly, Zhanhu needs to be able to dodge out his heavy chain finisher recovery. This character was supposed to be "limitless", but his core mechanics have nothing but limitations. When I use him and get a heavy finisher to land I feel like I should be able to flow into another dodge attack and start another chain. Not being able to do this is really stifling his potential.
Third, Zhanhs heavy openers do not do enough damage. They literally only need 2 or 3 more damage and they will be fine.
Fourthly, His hitboxes are all out of wack. Some heavy finishers literally go through characters but they take no damage. But this is common knowledge so Im not going to go into specifics.
Fifth, his top heavy unblockable finsher needs to do much more damage, its an extremely long animation and leaves you very vulnerable.
Senior Member
You forgot a few things. Like no bash. Nicely done animations for his finishers makes parrying both easy. And parrying the 600 ms light that might do 18 damage leads to up to 50 damage punishes. His Dodge attack is no opener. Damage is too low and when parried on guess ...
Just play Vs lawbringer. If he fails 4 parties and only gets off the fifth, his punish almost is the same as your 4 attacks damage. Though normally it's a 50/50 ...
No hyperarmor. No enhanced lights. Zone is 600 ms. Most useless deflect in game.
Like everything is wrong about his numbers, his moveset synergy - that doesn't really exist - his broken hitboxes, his recoverys ... He is in a very bad state.
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Senior Member
Oh I don't actually want him to get a bash. The simple fact though remains that bash based offense still is the most versatile offense in the game. Why I dont want Zhanhu to get a bash then is simple: Wardens most famous move is his infamous shoulder bash. Despite all those awesome weapon designs. He is known for bashing with his shoulder! So yeah, I dont like our bash based meta.
When it comes to balance discussions, not having a bash means the hero "automatically" can be considered at a disadvantage compared to the A- and S-Tier heroes. Can, not neccessarily has to be.
So with me listening all what Zhanhu does not have in comparision to other heroes, I only wanted to emphasise that he really is in need of a buff. More so then some other bottom tier heroes? I don't know. But probably needs those buffs enough to warrant some rather sooner than later.
