When will be made NERF Hitokiry and Vortiger ? | Forums

[Nerf_Prior]

Constantly on top.

"Do not know how to play, often die, gutted at the bottom of the list?
Take Hit or Prior and Hallelujah U Batmen."

[Wulfbane_]

If you play Hito or Vorti, are you top of the list?

[Gaser.]

Why?

In my opinion they dont really need a nerf.

[Nerf_Prior]

Unbeknownst to him nerfed. I personally constantly get into such fights in the Dominion, where Hitokiry as a king makes 15-18 kills easily,Especially when he is afraid to fight alone and fly into with Heavy in the crowd.

[chaneke1984]

Both characters are nerfed already. Hito is hard to fight in 4v4, but now he's manageable. BP is very manageable and has a great kit, is fun to play with, and can be frustrating to fight against if you find a bash spamming player, but both are fine now.
On console is harder to react to some of their moves, but they are not broken now.
With Hito, you see him always at the top of the list, with 12+ takedowns easily because he is a hell of a ganker.

[Vakris_One]

The real question is when will Shugoki and Aramusha be nerfed? They're terrorising the playerbase in Duel and Dominion! When will you save the playerbase from this tyranny UBISOFT!!!

[Vakris_One]

Jokes aside Shugoki's HA light needs to go

Why?

[UbiInsulin]

As everyone has said, both heroes have received some nerfs in the past.

It's always possible that more changes can come to a hero, so I don't mind having a discussion here. But I'd rather talk about what specifically needs addressing than talk about "nerfing" heroes with no further context.

[Vakris_One]

Because it can be thrown during any mixup and it interrupts it. Also if they turtle there is little to do if you lack a bash since he can safely throw his lights to trade with you and since they are faster than normal heavies he gets the trade advantage. If they were to nerf his HA lights he needs a buff to further counter bashes like many of the cast needs. Not to mention that sadly encourages turtling. Also Im not saying he is OP or anything he is among the worse duelists in the game Im just saying there are things in his kit that are broken. Same with Shinobi and LB

He almost never gets the trade advantage since his light only does 15 damage. All you need to do is throw a heavy and you out trade him. The main purpose of HA on his light is so he can get into his chain offense. Taking the HA away without giving him an opener so he can get into his chain as compensation will result in Shugoki throwing less attacks and turtling more, not less. He can't feint the light therefore you can punish it with a light parry or a dodge attack if he constantly tries to light on red. You can also deny him the use of light on red by proper spacing, which is something you could not do with Hitokiri's old HA so it's not nearly as egregious as her Heavy on red was.

Until there is a major balance update cued up for Shugoki, one which gives him a proper opener into his chain offence as compensation, I don't agree that he should lose his HA light. If you just remove it and give him nothing as compensation he will just become an even more defensive character as a consequence of not having any kind of way to get into his offense. I don't want to see any more characters thrown into a garbage pit like Shinobi, Nobushi and Raider's offense simply for lack of any kind of compensation. I'd rather the devs give characters proper updates when they are fully clued up on and ready with the kind of balancing compensation the hero needs. Because at the end of the day the goal is to intelligently re-balance all the heroes, not nerf each of them into oblivion one by one in an endless merry-go-round.

For the time being there is counter play that exists to Shugoki's HA light, unlike the situation with Hitokiri's old HA.

[Nerf_Prior]

I’m also interested? The developers show the tables where Hit in toe and in duels and in the Dominion, and do nothing.

Meanwhile, the players have asses burning, because imbecile, who, I am sure, used to die constantly and was downstairs, is now the King.:Сумасшедший: