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Every single time you create hypothetical scenarios where your opponent gets the perfect starting hand and you get the worst possible one. What are you trying to prove with these worst case starting situations? You could argue that all kinds of things are broken if you keep giving your opponent the best starting hand and you the worst one.
And I'm not running off to record a bunch of games simply because I don't want to spend my time doing it. No other real excuse, I'll be honest. This circular discussion is taking more than enough energy. If you want to watch a bunch of recorded games, you're welcome to follow one of the streamers. I recommend zalgocommeth, he's pretty funny. You'll see plenty of games where he deals with SOMM, with and without Santa if you watch long enough.
But I don't have any secret. Nik, Cural, myself and others have tried to share counters with you, but you just keep coming back with hypothetical worst case scenarios where you don't get an auto-win button against SOMM. Nobody is going to be able to give that to you, no matter how many times you ask. Use the counters or not, it's up to you. But don't expect us to agree that cards should be nerfed based on these made up situations and a reluctance to play spells.
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I think one of these cards may get eventually nerfed. Santa is used almost exclusively in combination with SOMM, and I recognize the combo can be hard to get around sometimes since one gives you a full charge, and the other one affects the whole board/battlefield. @developers: [I think that if you really need to nerf Santa at some point it would be for the sake of SOMM alone but then he’s much less likely to be used in combination with other cards (just like many other unused cards but that’s another subject). If you really want to nerf Santa you’d have to go with half charge fill or something like that. On the other hand, If you want to nerf SOMM, giving him a limited AOE would actually make things more interesting since you have to play with positioning without affecting its strength, for me that would be the best balancing method; if it comes to that you then have to determine how big of an AOE, probably less than Mecha Timmy and more than Witch Doctor Token.] Mkay you can carry on with your discussion.
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Santa needs a slight change given his comparable stats with cartman of the same cost..
SOMM is fine, use the counters, not freaking difficult, there is a reason I reached 8k... and it wasn't cos I sat on my arse asking for nerfs to SOMM... it was because I REQUESTE3D cards to be higher to deal with problems... its a game, build a deck, find the problems and weaknesses, and then FIX IT. dont come here saying this card is OP, when people who have had it, and stopped using it because it has no value, say it isn't.
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Jeez. I keep getting suckered in.Originally Posted by camelchasers Go to original post
I already explained how giving SOMM an AoE STILL protects him because YOU DON’T WANT TO PLAY CARDS AROUND HIM ANYWAY. So no need to decrease his cost, slow his walk speed, or raise his HP. The only difference is you AND your opponent can try to STRATEGICALLY place your cards instead of placing SOMM ANYWHERE on the board and relying on him to NUKE ALL YOUR ENEMIES. An AoE to SOMM would make the game A LOT more interesting since now you have to strategize where to place your cards and who to focus your attack on.
Please don’t nerf Santa JUST BECAUSE of SOMM. He’s barely useful with other charged cards, and if he is nerfed, he will be almost unplayable with the other charged cards and STILL be only useful with SOMM.
Ok tamish, I’ll make sure to play fantasy and adventure ALWAYS, and have lightning and transmogrify in my deck.. ALWAYS.
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Camel: I’m all for deck variety.Originally Posted by camelchasers Go to original post
Also Camel: People play the best cards in each theme. Surprise! Some cards should be in every deck, that is a “core mechanic of the game”.
Cool. No need to change anything about him. Great to hear your opinion and baseless blanket statements without any support. I just refuted your argument that SOMM would be “killed” by an AoE by explaining how his AoE protects him, and your response is that he’s a weird version of liane.
My AoE suggestion is Mecha’s AoE, not Liane’s. Liane is also a deathwish not a charge that can be used multiple times or as a warcry when Santa is played.
The difference, again, is that your opponent can actually play cards when SOMM is on the board instead of just sitting at 10 because he doesn’t have a spell in his hand. I swear it’s not a hard concept to grasp. I could literally get someone off the street who’s never played the game and explain to him what SOMM does and he’d say it’s overpowered BS.
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Good to see we finally agreeOriginally Posted by Ttttt771010 Go to original post
I’m just going to ignore all the other condescending stuff, so not much else to reply to.
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“Condescending.” Pot, meet kettle. Woe is me.Originally Posted by camelchasers Go to original postGood to see we finally agree
I’m just going to ignore all the other condescending stuff, so not much else to reply to.
Like the “surprise!” was not condescending. Your first ever response to me was “time to put the phone down.”
Someone actually posted an entire thread targeting you because you were condescending in your arguments against him. Condescending towards me. Condescending towards danny. Condescending towards bing. Victim card well played.
I refuted your biased “26%” claim and called you out on ignoring the five other 45%. I called BS on you saying the card would be “killed” if there is an AoE by explaining to you an AoE range literally protects him because the opponent won’t play cards close to him, and your argument is just a hypothetical and baseless.
I’m gonna ignore you too dude. Gosh you’re so tone-deaf.
