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    Gotta admit, I love that GIF LubzinNj.

    With fair I mean, it's chance. What's the alternative, remove chance? Remove RNG?
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    Originally Posted by SevenNVD Go to original post
    I really don't disagree with you that you see a decline in drops, that's your experience and I believe you're speaking the truth. I'm just saying, that in the long run, this games RNG will turn out to be fair.
    Who are you and what have done with SevenNVD? As for the the "bigger picture" snapshot... eh no thank you, it was painful enough to see drop decline and still not get anything worth while. I mean looking at that data would do one of two things...

    1. Make me super angry that someone has "better" RNG

    2. prove me 100% correct about the decline

    either way the game is for sadist that love to grind and never achieve perfection. I personally can't handle it.
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    Originally Posted by SinisterSchism Go to original post
    either way the game is for sadist that love to grind and never achieve perfection. I personally can't handle it.
    Yes I can understand that. I'm not playing much either lately, trying to save some fighting spirit for the holiday event next week.

    Nowhere did I say that the current gear game is good, because I don't think it is. All I'm saying is that RNG = RNG = chance. RNG giveth and RNG taketh away.

    I don't believe developers are (purposely or not) tinkering with it. If they are, I don't see why they wouldn't just tell us about it.


    And I'm still the same me, I've had this opinion since as long as I can remember.
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    I am at a point where i refuse to do any missions, i log in in hope that the loot i am looking for is in a targeted area.

    Mission loot is worhtless and not worth the time.
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    Originally Posted by Riflemania Go to original post
    I am at a point where i refuse to do any missions, i log in in hope that the loot i am looking for is in a targeted area.

    Mission loot is worhtless and not worth the time.
    Agreed, anything besides heroic is a waste of time.
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    2200+ hours played here and I can tell you for certain that the Targeted Loot has Deminished in Quantity and Quality! I do believe either the DB is getting corrupted or there is degradation in the RNG coder that supports the Targeted Loot Chance Rate. I can see it even when just opening LZ area containers there is an actual Lag of a slight millisecond before the loot shows and it seems to be defaulting to not giving any Targeted Loot... This Needs looked into because something is wrong.

    I now only do the tasks to raise the CP's (but I don't do the CP's because the loot is all junk and only 4-5 targeted loot drops...) and hunt down Named at all the spawn points in the LZ. I don't even open LZ crates anymore nor do I do missions (unless in a group and doing them for friends) because only getting 5 to 8 drops (that's Including Targeted Loot) per 100+ mobs killed is Not Rewarding...

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    After Today's update you are Not even Guaranteed a Targeted Loot drop from CP Activities! Why??? I did about 50 LZ Activities and got Targeted loot from only 1/3 of them.

    I did a mission (DCD) and Received only 7 Gold Loot (3 lvl 500 others less), 3 purple loot (All Junk, No attribute upgrades) and 3 Targeted Loot items (one was not even lvl 500....).

    I did a Control Point and Only had 8 Drops total... 2 Targeted Loot, 3 Junk Gold (less than 500 GS) and 3 Purple...

    I also looted every LZ backpack and suitcase I seen and only got 1 new set of Red Round Glasses (U G L Y).

    This was All done Right After patch so explain to me how the RNG is "Fine and Not Broken" and how the Targeted Loot is also "Fine and Not Broken".... If this is the way it's going to be I don't see a Reason to play until they sort out the 'Loot Issues' and 'RNG $#@%%iness'! I don't know if your Lava Lamps are solidifying or your Hampster on a Wheel died but your 'RNG Calculator' needs some Maintenance or Replaced... Tired of getting SC Kneepads with -0.0 critical hit chance...

    PLEASE Fix This! This is a TIMESINK that is Absurdly Abusive to the Player!!

    I Love this Game and have Fun playing it with friends but if this is the way loot is going to be I'd rather have a /HIDE ALL LOOT FOREVER setting Please!


    Edit: added Photo proof of the -0.0 CHC...

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    Originally Posted by SevenNVD Go to original post
    Yes I can understand that. I'm not playing much either lately, trying to save some fighting spirit for the holiday event next week.

    Nowhere did I say that the current gear game is good, because I don't think it is. All I'm saying is that RNG = RNG = chance. RNG giveth and RNG taketh away.

    I don't believe developers are (purposely or not) tinkering with it. If they are, I don't see why they wouldn't just tell us about it.


    And I'm still the same me, I've had this opinion since as long as I can remember.
    Yet with the game and all of it's complicated coding, there could be something there that isn't intentional that could be affecting results for players. I get it that you don't want to buy into conspiracies. On a different note, did you notice today's update had complications, bugs that they didn't see before release. Hmmmmm. I guess it's possible that just maybe there is more to the coding then maybe they could anticipate.
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    Originally Posted by InfamousClub Go to original post
    Agreed, anything besides heroic is a waste of time.
    Even then, it's been a waste of time lately.
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    Yet with the game and all of it's complicated coding, there could be something there that isn't intentional that could be affecting results for players. I get it that you don't want to buy into conspiracies. On a different note, did you notice today's update had complications, bugs that they didn't see before release. Hmmmmm. I guess it's possible that just maybe there is more to the coding then maybe they could anticipate.
    Look at that, we were both right it seems.

    There's no conspiracy, but Massive is investigating that there's probably something going on, as they mentioned it in today's SOTG.

    For the record, I stand corrected for not acknowledging that there is something going on with targeted loot.
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