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    This game still have serious problems!

    I didnt finish this game yet. I was playing today and I had many problems:

    Missions have gone wrong many times for many reasons:
    - Team A.I. start to shoot and mess up things.
    - My target in a mission start to walk over a railway and the train killed him! LOL this is unbelievable! The game destroyed my mission by itself!
    - Its not clear in what ranges a shot can be heard by enemies.
    - When I ordered my teammates A.I. to shoot, the enemies took cover and I walked so close to them and they didn't see me because they were trying to protect themselves against my team mates.

    P.S. This forum complains for "Human verification" but there's no way to do it!
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    Originally Posted by Multicut Go to original post
    I didnt finish this game yet. I was playing today and I had many problems:

    Missions have gone wrong many times for many reasons:
    - Team A.I. start to shoot and mess up things.
    you need to give them better orders. If you leave them exposed they are going to end up in an inadvertent firefight. You are the team lead and need to do you job - lead. Personally I usually give them an order to get way out of sight and do all the recon myself only ordering them to open fire in specific situations
    - My target in a mission start to walk over a railway and the train killed him! LOL this is unbelievable! The game destroyed my mission by itself!
    LOL yeah that sucks, but it is darn funny. Just restart the mission.
    - Its not clear in what ranges a shot can be heard by enemies.
    That likely takes testing. Honestly I don't know the ranges myself, but use a suppressor and try not to shoot right next to anyone but your target. I get "suspicious" responses frequently. Sometimes I back away, other times I just wait for the fool to come poking his head around.
    - When I ordered my teammates A.I. to shoot, the enemies took cover and I walked so close to them and they didn't see me because they were trying to protect themselves against my team mates.
    That is the point, that is what you want. Are you complaining or happy? The expression fire and movement is what you are doing. It is a sound military tactic. Good work Soldier

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    Hope that helps and good hunting.
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    Originally Posted by Steven527 Go to original post

    I didnt finish this game yet. I was playing today and I had many problems:

    Missions have gone wrong many times for many reasons:
    - Team A.I. start to shoot and mess up things.
    you need to give them better orders. If you leave them exposed they are going to end up in an inadvertent firefight. You are the team lead and need to do you job - lead. Personally I usually give them an order to get way out of sight and do all the recon myself only ordering them to open fire in specific situations

    The game clearly lacks more options like Ghost Recon Advanced Warfight had. There should be rules of engagement to teammates avoid fire unless they were attacked or to be more aggressive and attack on sight.

    - My target in a mission start to walk over a railway and the train killed him! LOL this is unbelievable! The game destroyed my mission by itself!
    LOL yeah that sucks, but it is darn funny. Just restart the mission.

    I spent more than 30min choosing my actions to perform the mission completely stealth and completely perfect and suddenly the game kills itself. Yeah, that sucks.

    - When I ordered my teammates A.I. to shoot, the enemies took cover and I walked so close to them and they didn't see me because they were trying to protect themselves against my team mates.
    That is the point, that is what you want. Are you complaining or happy? The expression fire and movement is what you are doing. It is a sound military tactic. Good work Soldier

    An enemy should take some action always if you are at 2 meters from him.

    Now I wonder if Breakpoint has the same problems.
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    Originally Posted by Multicut Go to original post
    I didnt finish this game yet. I was playing today and I had many problems:

    Missions have gone wrong many times for many reasons:
    - Team A.I. start to shoot and mess up things.
    - My target in a mission start to walk over a railway and the train killed him! LOL this is unbelievable! The game destroyed my mission by itself!
    - Its not clear in what ranges a shot can be heard by enemies.
    - When I ordered my teammates A.I. to shoot, the enemies took cover and I walked so close to them and they didn't see me because they were trying to protect themselves against my team mates.

    P.S. This forum complains for "Human verification" but there's no way to do it!
    Team AI:
    - Unless there's a switch (in options menu) to always force certain action, there's no command that will make AI do what they are specifically told. Your best bet is to toggle team AI on/off if their presence is needed.

    NPC's, killer train, civilians and harsh environment:
    - Top level threat in this game isn't Santa Blanca cartel or Unidad. Environment, NPC's and civilians are, despite not being officially recognized faction. It would be awesome if we could see how many lives were claimed by Operation Road Rage. Maybe you can use them to your advantage. With enough patience and some "convincing", civilians can be your personal army of sicarios that achieves total victory (sometimes).

    In a perfect game world, which this is not, kill shot shouldn't be heard past 130 meters, with or without suppressor equipped. Missed shots or shots that kill the target and hit certain surfaces will make noise. Noise will then act as a beacon to your current location. Patterns do exist, but randomness plays it's part too.
    That's what team AI does best. Create diversions and act as a priority target during exchange of plomo.

    Have fun with the rest of the game and hope your NPC's live long and fruitful lives.
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    Originally Posted by Multicut Go to original post
    Now I wonder if Breakpoint has the same problems.
    is even worst
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    Originally Posted by Multicut Go to original post
    I spent more than 30min choosing my actions to perform the mission completely stealth and completely perfect and suddenly the game kills itself. Yeah, that sucks.
    Believe me I have been there. It is an open world and in an open world unscripted s**t happens

    Originally Posted by Multicut Go to original post
    An enemy should take some action always if you are at 2 meters from him.
    In a firefight I am betting your situational awareness is gonna make that really hard. You focus on the guy shooting at you


    Originally Posted by Multicut Go to original post
    Now I wonder if Breakpoint has the same problems.
    As noted by Gap, you ain't seen nothing yet. I'd advise staying clear of Breakpoint if you think this is bad. Your liable to put your fist through your monitor with Breakpoint.
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    The shot detection ranges for enemies are documented in my tips guide... it’s based on class of weapon, ignore the weapons noise stat, that’s meaningless...

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...J4lGLDE3i-dxdQ
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