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    Bolivian coup d'etat... Wildlands becomes reality?

    Well, the indigenous president Morales of Bolivia was removed from the government through a military coup last week.
    There is evidence that indicates involvement of U.S. backed organizations in overthrowing the government and installing a far-right politician who has declared herself president without any legal premise.

    Bolivia has the largest Lithium reserves of the world which equates to about 60% of the global Lithium resources.
    Lithium is extremely valuable as a crucial component for cell phone batteries and electric car batteries.
    The now removed president Morales wanted to nationalize the Lithium reserves so they would not be exploited by transnational corporations.
    The wealthy elites of Bolivia wanted to prevent this nationalization.

    Quite remarkable that two years after this game Wildlands was released, there has now been a complete shift in power.
    In the game the rebels are the indigenous population, which seems very realistic that they will organize to rebel against this unlawful removal of the democratically elected president.

    Although it might be unwilling, I hope Ubisoft is aware that the portrayal of sovereign countries as nefarious entities can be used as a form of propaganda for regime change interventions as Bolivia is not plagued by cartels as depicted in the game.
    Colombia or Mexico would have been more adequate locations for Wildlands considering the real life circumstances, but these countries are considered U.S. allies and Bolivia was considered as antagonistic towards U.S. interests.
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    Originally Posted by CYANiDAL187 Go to original post
    Although it might be unwilling, I hope Ubisoft is aware that the portrayal of sovereign countries as nefarious entities can be used as a form of propaganda for regime change interventions as Bolivia is not plagued by cartels as depicted in the game.
    Colombia or Mexico would have been more adequate locations for Wildlands considering the real life circumstances, but these countries are considered U.S. allies and Bolivia was considered as antagonistic towards U.S. interests.
    It's a work of fiction. Get over it.
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    Originally Posted by Ghost416 Go to original post
    It's a work of fiction. Get over it.
    not only that, but probably mathematically the smallest national population on the planet to upset

    and honestly cyan, every country on the planet has "clandestine operations" for.... everything.... china is financing tunnels thru the Andes Mountains to get the Lithium form Argentina, Bolivia, Venezuela and Chile out to the coast where they are building deep water ports.. so... "insert protagonist agenda and antagonist regime"...
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    I suspect one of the reasons “Bolivia” was selected for the game was due to the diversity of geography.
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    Originally Posted by Virtual-Chris Go to original post
    I suspect one of the reasons “Bolivia” was selected for the game was due to the diversity of geography.
    LOL no way, couldn't possible be that simple, there HAS to be a conspiracy!
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    Originally Posted by CarolinaFrog Go to original post
    not only that, but probably mathematically the smallest national population on the planet to upset

    and honestly cyan, every country on the planet has "clandestine operations" for.... everything.... china is financing tunnels thru the Andes Mountains to get the Lithium form Argentina, Bolivia, Venezuela and Chile out to the coast where they are building deep water ports.. so... "insert protagonist agenda and antagonist regime"...

    Since you are the only one whose reply consists of an actually substantive argument I will respond to your comment.
    Bolivia is actually the only country on the entire American continent whose population is for the majority indigenous, this indigenous population has always been marginalized in the history of Bolivia.
    The fact that with this current coup all the progress that was made in the economic and social development of the indigenous population over the past 12 years has been reverted is tragic.
    After this military coup Bolivia is heading towards a Pinochet style dictatorship, but I presume Western governments prefer that as long as sovereign countries are unable to nationalize their natural resources and industries and are instead open for wholesale exploitation by multinational corporate conglomerates.

    With regard to your other point, it is true that China is expanding its economic influence into Africa and South America by investing into a wide variety of industrial and infrastructural projects, which is not without negative consequences for those regions but these are not clandestine operations as they are quite blatant attempts to secure access to natural resources.
    However there is a stark difference between the investment strategy that China is using and the strategy that the U.S.A. has been using for over the past 150 years.

    I suggest you research the imperialist project for Latin America that the U.S. has been using since the Monroe Doctrine which is most notably exemplified by the Banana Wars and Operation Condor in which unfavourable Latin American governments were covertly overthrown by U.S. backed proxies to install puppet dictators that will adhere to the economic agenda of the U.S.
    This is not the strategy that China is using in Africa and Latin America even though their occupation of Tibet is one of the most horrendous human rights atrocities of our times.

    There has been extensive peer reviewed academic research done which concluded that the U.S. is complicit or responsible for more than 70 successful or failed coup d'etats in the past century.
    If you are interested in learning more about this subject I suggest researching the 'School of America's' or reading the autobiographical book 'Confessions of an Economic Hit Man' by John Perkins.
    The harsh reality of his experience that is described by Perkins is more compelling than any Tom Clancy novel.
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    Oooorrrrrr somewhat different version of events:

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/11/ameri...ntl/index.html

    Some of the more interesting quotes/statements etc:

    "Morales faced mounting protests in the aftermath of the October 20 vote as demonstrators and the Bolivian opposition accused electoral authorities of manipulating the vote count in favor of the incumbent."

    "Electoral monitors from the Organization of American States (OAS) published a report Sunday alleging irregularities that impacted the official vote count." (Which Morales won--Flanker)

    "Morales said he'd been forced out in a coup -- a charge echoed by his allies in Latin America, including Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, Cuban President Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez, and Argentinian President-elect Alberto Fernández." Now there are some endorsements you canbe proud to put on your resume/CV!--Flanker
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