Is there any actual reason for Lb to have slow heavies and do pathetic damage? | Forums

[KevalOfHades]

It absolutely takes forever to kill anything in a team fight not to mention his shove and long arm being useless even in a gank.
No compitent opponent will get hit by them nor Will they feed the lb his huge parry punishes either.

Im genuinely curious why he has been given such an appalling treatment when shugoki rightfully got a solid rework (in my opinion) besides his headbut any

Not to mention other hero with much faster heavies do the same damage

[Dragtyr]

It absolutely takes forever to kill anything in a team fight not to mention his shove and long arm being useless even in a gank.
No compitent opponent will get hit by them nor Will they feed the lb his huge parry punishes either.

Im genuinely curious why he has been given such an appalling treatment when shugoki rightfully got a solid rework (in my opinion) besides his headbut any

Not to mention other hero with much faster heavies do the same damage

So you think Lawbringer is useless and Shugoki's rework was solid.
You must be new here. Come sit by the fire have a drink and let's talk about the basics first.

[TOCKSYK2]

Oh boy.. I'm guessing you haven't come across Lawbringer in ranked mode? Every parry, doesn't matter if heavy or light, will wallsplat and give him 50 dmg and blind you, without even ending LB's chain
His parry punishes need a nerf but he needs a buff in his offensive. Also how..how is LB..a mountain of flesh and steel so fast compared to Shino. 400 ms top light? Orochi doesn't have that, and he's OROCHI

[KevalOfHades]

Guys im rep 100 here... what is this talk of me Being new?
Im refering to his 4v4 capacity ,besides nobody smart in ranked is gonna get hit by his 400 ms top light any or give him parries

[TheUberDome]

His parry punishes need a nerf but he needs a buff in his offensive.

I totally agree with this. I feel like the dev team didn't really care too much about his rework. They just looked at the win rate of the hero, made a few number changes and called it a day. Having a 400ms opener is good if you have mixup chains to follow it, but LB doesn't.

[p0wn3rki11]

To answer your original question in the title, if i had to guess:
His heavies are slow to bait your opponent into reacting to early, as well as to justify their damage (? not sure on this one, but im just trying to get in the mindset of the devs) This baits into your parries, even good players can fall for them.

As for pathetic damage you are sadly mistaken. One mistake and it can be as little as a blind into either a grab for a heavy or a continued combo probably with the top light, or as much as a wallsplat heavy into combo or the Ad Mortem, which double blinds off the parry. His burst potential is nuts but it all relies on parrying, further spurred on by him having crap for a stamina pool but a ton of hp. It encourages defensive play and parry fishing, he has no middle ground apart from that which facilitates parries.

I can see where you get slow to kill from if you aren't parrying a lot, as his normal game kinda blows but his parry offense is insane. its a weird balance and i would totally be for a nerf in parries for a buff to middle game.

[KitingFatKidsEZ]

Fun facts:
The highest rated GM ranked duel player rn is playing LB
Lawbringer is one of the most popular ranked duel characters in Masters+

He is considered to be the best ranked duel character in the game rn by a decent number of GMs.

Say what again?
Guy needs a nerf, thats for sure.

[Zhantay]

Oh boy.. I'm guessing you haven't come across Lawbringer in ranked mode? Every parry, doesn't matter if heavy or light, will wallsplat and give him 50 dmg and blind you, without even ending LB's chain
His parry punishes need a nerf but he needs a buff in his offensive. Also how..how is LB..a mountain of flesh and steel so fast compared to Shino. 400 ms top light? Orochi doesn't have that, and he's OROCHI

Dude, don't even get me started; that 7 foot tall meme-machine just chases down my Nobushi (who is wearing bath robes mind you) like a cheetah. His weapon alone, weighs more than my armor+weapon combined xD.