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[MrGeriausias]

I'm playing event, opponent puts 4-5lvl epics against my lvl 3. And in back lvl 3 somm, that's not problem cause I'm ready with MC. But again I can't choose target for MC, cause they don't fix it. Don't waste time for your sorry, match ended draw.

Fix issue with cyborg Kenny, if he killed by poisons from aqr or ac, deafwish activates, but killed with chomper from toolshed deafwish doesn't actives.

[Cural42]

Yes, it has been discussed, but since the problem with Purify has not been fixed, the point is valid.

You can't fix a problem that doesn't exist. There's nothing about Purify that needs to be fixed, because there is no problem with Purify. The only perceived problem is everybody who feels butthurt that their favourite spell is being countered by another spell that was designed for the purpose of countering stuff like that. It's already been explained to death, and the only people who still don't get it are the ones who ignore the logic because they refuse to admit the possibility they could be wrong.

There you go, I even went and found the relevant thread for you:

https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthread.php/2079521-Purify

This has the entire discussion about it, and everything I have to say about it.

[AnalogEye]

You can't fix a problem that doesn't exist. There's nothing about Purify that needs to be fixed, because there is no problem with Purify. The only perceived problem is everybody who feels butthurt that their favourite spell is being countered by another spell that was designed for the purpose of countering stuff like that. It's already been explained to death, and the only people who still don't get it are the ones who ignore the logic because they refuse to admit the possibility they could be wrong.

There you go, I even went and found the relevant thread for you:

https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...2079521-Purify

This has the entire discussion about it, and everything I have to say about it.

Man, talk about butthurt... but thanks for highlighting my points as well. And I like your addition: a spell designed to counter another one... that just happens to cost half, be more common and work all over the board rather than on just half the board? Is that the spell you were talking about?

[MrGeriausias]

Put mc on cyborg, he died before become my but took my energy, fix it.

[Cural42]

Man, talk about butthurt... but thanks for highlighting my points as well. And I like your addition: a spell designed to counter another one... that just happens to cost half, be more common and work all over the board rather than on just half the board? Is that the spell you were talking about?

Wow, you managed to eliminate all of the information from that thread that didn't suit your personal bias, and instead just used the parts that supported your own opinion about those cards. Confirmation Bias for the win!!

Maybe save the "butthurt" comment for someone who actually uses either of those cards!! I have no investment in either spell, seeing as I don't use either one unless it's some sort of event, but I can see clearly just how OP MC would be if they made it able to target the whole board. To me, Purify isn't worth the cost of putting it in my deck. I couldn't give a darn about that card, but I'm not going to sit back and watch it be unfairly treated, either. The game doesn't need that kind of imbalance. They have enough balance issues to deal with, without adding to them!!

Purify may be cheaper, but so what? A card doesn't have to cost the same as or more than the card it is countering. There are plenty of other cards in this game that can be countered by cheaper cards. But there are way more cards in the game that Purify can do a sum total of diddly squat about. It's a card slot that could have been saved for something that can be used against a wider variety of cards.

I occasionally meet opponents who use Purify against me. It's an annoyance, and sometimes can ruin my push, but I don't join a mob wielding fire and pitchforks and cry that the spell is too powerful, and demand it be nerfed. I just shrug my shoulders, say "Them's the breaks," send a "Well played" message, and move on with the match. Good for them for countering my strategy. They deserve it.

And yes, Purify is a spell designed to counter spell effects and spell-like effects of characters. MC is designed to counter characters, which makes it much more powerful, and thus more expensive. And if someone just happened to have the foresight to put a counter to your strategy in his deck, good for him! He'll win against you, then lose to the next opponent because they didn't have anything in their deck where Purify could be put to good use. How many opponents do you face where you never played MC because there was never an available target?

[Cural42]

Put mc on cyborg, he died before become my but took my energy, fix it.

That can happen. It's just a matter of timing. Best I can recommend is that if you want to MC a unit, don't kill it first. If you use MC on a unit that one of your units is in the middle of the attack animation against, his damage is still going to resolve, regardless of whether or not you take it over. Same thing can happen with UC or Transmogrify, among other cards.

[AnalogEye]

Maybe save the "butthurt" comment for someone who actually uses either of those cards!!

I just happen to think that the points you make regarding the purify spell and the discussion we had back in the day regarding the difference between MC and Purify boundaries has not moved my view that it is a problem and not a settled issue as you seemed to suggest.

My "butthurt" comment... was not really mine, was it? I never said anything about you and you came back with that. Personally I think the way purify is wrong when compared to MC is wrong, but it doesn't change what I think of the game any more than all the other problems in the game. I'm not going to pile on, but maybe you should think of what you wrote regarding things like the butthurt comment to disregard other people's points of view. I mean... english is not my first language, but I guess the tone was not particularly kind, was it?

Anyway, enjoy the game.

[MrGeriausias]

That can happen. It's just a matter of timing. Best I can recommend is that if you want to MC a unit, don't kill it first. If you use MC on a unit that one of your units is in the middle of the attack animation against, his damage is still going to resolve, regardless of whether or not you take it over. Same thing can happen with UC or Transmogrify, among other cards.

Same time on mid line I puted hermes, he dropped cyborg, so a been fast enough target it with MC, but it's so delayed. And uc is very delayed

[Cural42]

I just happen to think that the points you make regarding the purify spell and the discussion we had back in the day regarding the difference between MC and Purify boundaries has not moved my view that it is a problem and not a settled issue as you seemed to suggest.

My "butthurt" comment... was not really mine, was it? I never said anything about you and you came back with that. Personally I think the way purify is wrong when compared to MC is wrong, but it doesn't change what I think of the game any more than all the other problems in the game. I'm not going to pile on, but maybe you should think of what you wrote regarding things like the butthurt comment to disregard other people's points of view. I mean... english is not my first language, but I guess the tone was not particularly kind, was it?

Anyway, enjoy the game.

Ultimately the decision as to which side had more merit is up to Ubisoft, and they haven't made any changes, which implicitly adds more merit to the defense. Also, those arguing in favour of nerfing Purify weren't able to provide any better arguments to their side than to just keep stating the same points like saying it more frequently would lend it more credence.

Your "butthurt" comment seemed clearly directed to me, as you opened your response with "Man, talk about butthurt..." Since this was your first statement in a direct reply to me, how else did you expect me to interpret it? When I used the word earlier, it was directed towards nobody in particular. I didn't even go back to that original thread to see who all was arguing about nerfing Purify. I just remembered several people complaining that their MC strategy was being interrupted by a counter, and they didn't like that, so they decided any counter to their strategy should be eliminated or made no longer feasible, so that everybody would stop countering their favourite strategy. Sounds kinda butthurt to me.

At any rate, the main thrust of my original post referencing that topic here was to indicate that this horse has already been beaten to death, and that anybody who wants to continue beating it further can do so on that original thread rather than on this thread, since this is more to do with how MC works, rather than with how a spell that can counter it works.

[Cural42]

Same time on mid line I puted hermes, he dropped cyborg, so a been fast enough target it with MC, but it's so delayed. And uc is very delayed

Just as with UC, the delay is part of the spell, and needs to be taken into account when using it, so that you time it properly. If you'd placed Hermes slightly farther away from Cyborg, then you probably wouldn't have had this issue. So instead, you received a good learning opportunity! This will help to prepare you for next time this situation arises, so that you are able to time it better the next time around!