Normalization of unfeintable bashes | Forums

[Goat_of_Vermund]

I think that recovery-wise, bashes work the best the way Black Prior's zone, Kensei's pommel strike or Jormungandr's neutral bash works: on miss, they can choose to follow it up with a light, which can be parried easily, or you can throw a heavy or don't follow it up, in which case, your recovery is high enough for a guardbreak. This would make all bashes punishable, but not too harshly and it would require a good read.

[Sweaty_Sock]

The problem at the moment is that some bashes give 30-40 damage, and those have been been buffed so you cant GB them. The two that stick out for me are HL kick & Valk Sweep.

Potential reward needs to be factored into the recovery time to allow an appropriate punish

[Gaser.]

The problem at the moment is that some bashes give 30-40 damage, and those have been been buffed so you cant GB them. The two that stick out for me are HL kick & Valk Sweep.

Potential reward needs to be factored into the recovery time to allow an appropriate punish

To be fair, Valks sweep should not give a Guardbreak just for dodging it.

[Sweaty_Sock]

To be fair, Valks sweep should not give a Guardbreak just for dodging it.

To be fair then a move that can ONLY be dodged shouldn't give 35 damage if it can only be dodge attacked, and given a speed to recover and light attack with crushing counter... its a spam cycle