Why are there more players playing PVE/PVP in The Division 1 vs The Division 2 | Forums

[Uhnomuhlee]

And guess what perception creates reality. D2 feels like a ghost town compared to d1. That may not be factual but it is reality. D2 dz feels less bc it is less with 12 players. Also you rarely see 12 players; if it’s “busy” you might get 10-12 players but it never fails a few players leave. I’ve probably had just a handful times a full 12 dz. I play in the dz every night for at least 3 hrs.

Samthing can be said in the LZ. BOO had a full social area in d1; I may see a cpl ppl at the helicopter. Even safe houses feel empty.

If perception created reality then the Flat Earthers would be right. Unless you have a rocketship. Do you have a rocketship?

[GetMused]

Again didn’t say it was factual just their reality.

Lol, I knew you’d jump all over this while sitting at your desk.

What’s more important, being right or getting it right? Please realize I’m being rhetorical.

[Uhnomuhlee]

Okay, you did say that. I overlooked that.

My bad.

[SevenNVD]

No one has the numbers except Ubisoft/Massive and the shareholders, but i have the feeling The Division 2 is doing slightly better than Divsion 1, whereas Div 1 had a more prominent and thus busier darkzone.

It's also completely possible that the game does a lot worse in Europe and North America, and is immensely popular in the east and Russia.

[TimesLostArc]

At this point, we can only rely on anecdote and very limited data.

On the PS4 data site it listed MAU or what is commonly known as Monthly Active Users as being around 220,000 for Div 2 and 84,000 for Div 1. New Player accounts on PS4 for Div 2 were 80,000 while Div 1 had 49,000. Div 2 has a third of the total player base on PS4, at 2.5 million, than Div 1 does, at 9.7 million. Div 2 has only been out for a little more than 6 months.

Div 1 continues to add new players despite no longer being officially updated by the Devs.

This data is only for PS4. Uplay and Epic Data is as we all know not public. I am not sure about X-Box.

PvP allows a game to live on without constant official updates. Div 1 has an active PvP base so it is still alive after no longer getting constant updates.

PvP allows a game to survive content droughts. PvE requires constant new content to prevent people from getting bored. People who complain about PvP need to keep in mind that those players will keep playing if the game is good even when others have left when there aren't new missions or content.

Right now until we get a new raid, I am expecting a content drought. Why the devs have decided to push the new raid back by more than 3 months has me concerned. I have my own crazy theories, but the fact remains despite those ideas; we are looking at a very long 3-4 month PvE content drought after this update. No way to avoid it. I expect most hardened PvE'rs to blaze through Episode 2 in about a week or 2, and then just play something else.


Also John B Tokyo's account posting here isn't a ban evader. Notice it has all of his posts still accredited to him and is a Senior Member. He likely just got off his temp ban.

[COL_Norris]

I'll offer my anecdotal information from a PvE perspective. If I go into Div 1 to play the Legendary missions a group of 4 forms up in a minute or two. If I go into Div 2 to play the Heroic missions I will end up going solo for the first few minutes and then one or two players might show up. On a weekend I might end up with 3 others joining to fill up the group by the time we reach the last battle. That's pretty anecdotal but it is reality from my perspective.

[SevenNVD]

I'll offer my anecdotal information from a PvE perspective. If I go into Div 1 to play the Legendary missions a group of 4 forms up in a minute or two. If I go into Div 2 to play the Heroic missions I will end up going solo for the first few minutes and then one or two players might show up. On a weekend I might end up with 3 others joining to fill up the group by the time we reach the last battle. That's pretty anecdotal but it is reality from my perspective.

I have similar experience but it says zero about the playerbase.

You have to factor in matchmaking settings and implementation, location, connectivity, time and of course population.

Maybe there's only 3 players in our region, but 3000 in a region we can't connect with.

[Finalplay342019]

Alot of my friend have went back to d1 for past month, most everyone of them have been playing survival. As for pvp, very few of my friends even play pvp. As for the people that do, I think the main purpose for tu6 is to make it where player build are more balanced, dps builds are way to deadly right and other build can not compete, I played with a guy today that had 198k armor, 115k health and 40k damage with eagle. No one has fun getting plowed down as soon as walk in the dz. This is why the eagle got nerfed. Most poeple dont go to the dz because you spend hours getting loot, and then a player like with that much dps comes up behind and you dont even have time to move.

[chicagolongball]

I and some of my clan have been back on TD1. Survival and Underground are just a lot more fun than the trickle out of content on TD2. The raid getting pushed is a soul crusher. That was what everyone is really looking forward to.

[Finalplay342019]

The only reliable source on current player base would be from Ubi and I don’t think for one minute they will make them available for all to see ( nobody likes to wash their dirty linen in public).

Although it would be very interesting to know if Div2 has a higher current player base v the current Div1 player base!!!!!!!

The fact there have been two free weekends within six months of release ( one after E3 that Terry announced and the recent one announced on STOG) speaks volumes ubi are obviously unhappy with the current player base in Div2.

I had high hopes for DIV2myself as did many others from what I have read, but my expectations faded quite quickly like a lot of others.

I have not played Div2 for well over two months maybe three months now just cannot bring myself to logon any more, it does not have the same appeal as the Div1 had for me and I did not play PVP either.

I have been playing other games along with the Div1 and cannot see myself coming back for quite a while if ever the way thing are going.

Whichever game you play it’s all about having fun, Div2 for me is not fun everyone is different as long as you enjoy playing that’s all that counts.

Just my opinion ;-)

I beat the story mode, and went to d1 for about 3 month and played though 3 new games. To me d2 wasn't a sequel, but completely different game, it went from the dollar flue to DC-62 green poison, they changed all the enemy faction, put in those annoying *** suicide bombers in it, like its DC not the frickin middle east. They told us one of the 3 dz would pve only, didn't get that. They told us the story mode would have a better ending, it didn't. Like most all games, they changed to many things from the first one.