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[camelchasers]

I'm really not trying to be aggressive here (in fact you're the one accusing people of disagreeing with you of having suspicious behavior) but all you or anyone else can seem to share is rumor and accusation.We have people on our teams that record games all the time to share with the group. It's super easy to do on any number of OSs now, and if energy hacking was a widespread thing rather than a one-off Lochness monster as it seems to be now, I just don't think it's too much to ask for someone to come forward with proof.

The devs have already responded to this point in multiple threads with the line that energy hacking is no longer possible since energy management has gone serverside. What more do you want them to say? But if you come with some videos of energy cheating going on in matches, I'm positive you'll get a quick response. If the people reporting cheating are truly so widespread, it must be trivial for someone to come forward with proof.

[Ubi-Toller]

I have said it before, and I will say it again: There is no way to manipulate energy in Phone Destroyer. You could once upon a time, which is why we moved everything relating to energy to our own servers. We ask to have videos sent in because if there was a new way going around we would obviously want to know ASAP. So far, every video sent to us has been either a lag-related issue that appears to be energy manipulation or a player with incredible good timing who knows how to count their own energy and is exceedingly talented at managing it.

Despite the low chances, I'll never turn down a video to watch because I'd always like to double-check. Please do let me know if anyone has anything they would like me to take a look at.

[Ascendent1985]

I have said it before, and I will say it again: There is no way to manipulate energy in Phone Destroyer. You could once upon a time, which is why we moved everything relating to energy to our own servers. We ask to have videos sent in because if there was a new way going around we would obviously want to know ASAP. So far, every video sent to us has been either a lag-related issue that appears to be energy manipulation or a player with incredible good timing who knows how to count their own energy and is exceedingly talented at managing it.

Despite the low chances, I'll never turn down a video to watch because I'd always like to double-check. Please do let me know if anyone has anything they would like me to take a look at.

Nice you took time to react to something nobody can proof. But keeping ignoring the obvious cheat/hack? Nice.

[skuil_11]

so when I see someone using T&P then warboy, then ninjew... which is 11 this energy came from where? the entire game they seemed to always have the ability to play stuff

[nik_lin]

so when I see someone using T&P then warboy, then ninjew... which is 11 this energy came from where? the entire game they seemed to always have the ability to play stuff

If the person waited until he had 10 energy and played all 3 cards slowly enough to get the missing 1 energy? Takes time to summon stuff. Since he was playing mystic he might even have had energy staff, or increased energy generation from hermes? But even without that playing 11 is quite normal, specially during endgame, since you gain energy during the summon delay as well.

When people were cheating, back when it was client side, you would see things like people dropping 20 energy or more at once, or spamming fireballs and lightning bolts nonstop.

[camelchasers]

Exactly what Nik said. Every time someone shares a video it shows that they were just wrong in their energy counting and their opponent was playing really well. But hey, if you disagree....... share a video!

[Ascendent1985]

Exactly what Nik said. Every time someone shares a video it shows that they were just wrong in their energy counting and their opponent was playing really well. But hey, if you disagree....... share a video!

Sorry Camelchasers, but are you a developer yourself or did you buy Ubisoft/Redlynx shares orso?

Trying to turn my thread into your “energy hack doesn’t exist” crusade. Everybody bringing it up, you do like you have all the ”facts” it can’t exist. Cause of your team etc. Where is the real proof then, that it can’t exist? Even Toller only gives a 95% sure answer in this thread.

That some people play this as a game, don’t record everything, makes either side hard to proof. I know I have seen somebody dropping 3 units at the same time in live matches, not lagging all game after, total energy count 13 not long ago. And not lagging all game after (the excuse of Toller) But I don’t record, I expect Ubisoft to log timestamps of every match. So they can investigate. Which they DONT. So they can’t state they know for sure, it doesn’t exist. See Tollers answer in this thread. 95%.

Work myself in IT, and I know. Everything is hackable. IT Security will be the best study if you are on school right now. If somebody can play cards that aren’t live yet, having my own experiences with “energy hacking” recently, I think it is plausible that it is possible too. Unless you come with facts, rather than info of 50 (100/150 with your sub teams?) of the whole population.

Just think it is lame reply of Ubisoft to try and ignore it. Like running games properly server side and ignoring the requests to fix bugs, which in some cases already exist for 2 years.

[MarionCobre2019]

Yes I would really appreciate all the naysayers to just stop commenting on this thread I was trying to get a hold of Ubi Toller which I did and they pointed out that there are no recorded matches which is a mistake like someone else pointed out everything is hackable if the FBI database is hackable then this game is . I think that you guys should invest in some type of memory storage or cloud service that stores the games at least temporarily so that we don't have to send you the videos because you guys have a reporting service that apparently does not work at all it's just for show if you can't investigate or maybe there's some other way that you're investigating that I'm just not aware of I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I will try to record a match when it happens again it doesn't happen often but when it happens it's highly annoying and irritating because these players tend to be very obnoxious in the game. They will sit there spamming ,laughing, and farting and you're counting the energy usage and it's insane it's like non-stop drops of cards I don't have any recorded matches of this but I will do my best to try to get some. Again guys it only makes you suspect in my opinion when you're getting so defensive about me bringing up energy hackers. If you're hacking this game in any shape or form I hope you get caught. So I'm just going to repeat once again energy hacking is happening I just don't have any video proof of it and anyone that has a video recording device on their phone already please try to help me catch these hackers as well. If we can't catch them at least we can make them go into hiding through exposure.


Also what did ubi toller mean by energy manipulation due to lag....is that an exploit?

[camelchasers]

That’s cool you work in IT. I guess that means you can take a video

[Cural42]

Also what did ubi toller mean by energy manipulation due to lag....is that an exploit?

I think she means when lag occurring during the match makes it look like energy manipulation, when it's actually just delays caused by lag making it seem more energy was spent all at once than actually was.